Uniglide to Hyperglide conversion
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Uniglide to Hyperglide conversion
Don't want to bore you with the gory detail of this debacle; but, I have a wheelset with a 7400 Uniglide freehub. But, I have an 8 spd Hyperglide cassette. Is it cheaper to replace the cassette or can I replace the freehub?
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The Uniglide cassette isn't made anymore and it would be difficult to find the HG freehub body for that hub, as you may already have noticed. And when it's all said and done, you'd still be running an end-of-life platform either way. How about rebuilding the rear wheel with a current-generation hub? Tiagra is $40, basically near Ultegra quality, and leaves all your options open.
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The Uniglide cassette isn't made anymore and it would be difficult to find the HG freehub body for that hub, as you may already have noticed. And when it's all said and done, you'd still be running an end-of-life platform either way. How about rebuilding the rear wheel with a current-generation hub? Tiagra is $40, basically near Ultegra quality, and leaves all your options open.
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SB wrote:
I happen to have an unused threaded UG top gear I could part with.
Brown also mentions freehub transplants on this page. Is that no longer possible with today's FHs?
you can fit Hyperglide sprockets onto a Uniglide body by grinding or filing off the one wide spline. This is not particularly difficult. You'll still need a threaded Uniglide sprocket for the top-gear position. Supplies of these are getting scanty.
Brown also mentions freehub transplants on this page. Is that no longer possible with today's FHs?
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I'm sorry. I need to restart this thread. Assumptions are dangerous things when it come to bikes. I just tried to put a 7spd Uniglide cassette on this hub and it didn't fit. Now I don't know what I have. Can anyone tell me what type of freehub this is?
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I was just digging through my parts drawer for the aforementioned cog. I found two. Both 13T, but with two different inside diameters. One is roughly 35mm, and the other 38mm.
Then I read this from Sheldon:
What's the approximate diameter of that FH?
Then I read this from Sheldon:
Dura-Ace freehubs used a different, smaller thread, which worked only with Dura-Ace threaded sprockets. (Formerly, you could get an 11 tooth threaded cog for Dura-Ace, but this has been discontinued.
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If you haven't noticed, I don't blame you because neither did I; but, there appears to be threads at the ends of the hub?
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I saw them. After remeasuring, I'd say that the smaller of my 13Ts would fit that body.
Then I measured a single HG cog, and the diameter seems the same.
Are you sure that was a UG and not an HG cassette that you tried to fit on there?
Then I measured a single HG cog, and the diameter seems the same.
Are you sure that was a UG and not an HG cassette that you tried to fit on there?
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I'm sorry! I've had so many problems with this bike which I am determined to overcome because I've ridden her, and she's worth it. I retried the 7spd uniglide, and didn't realize the one narrow slot. It went on to my relief. (I'm new in the school here) The 8spd wouldn't because it had a flat slot in one area. I thought this hub was supposed to take both UG and HG?
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Looking closely at your FH, I'd say it's like the middle one on Sheldon's page that I posted earlier. 'Compatible with both' means that an HG lock-ring will fit into the inside threads at the end. So you don't need to find a threaded outer cog. You just need to figure out whether you're meant to grind off a spline of the FH or from each of the 8 cogs. I've never done this.
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Looking closely at your FH, I'd say it's like the middle one on Sheldon's page that I posted earlier. 'Compatible with both' means that an HG lock-ring will fit into the inside threads at the end. So you don't need to find a threaded outer cog. You just need to figure out whether you're meant to grind off a spline of the FH or from each of the 8 cogs. I've never done this.
This is a pic of the wheels.
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OK. I'll admit it. I'm a bicycle idiot. I've been talked into a new understanding of freehubs and the world, and my bike seems alright tonight. It was me, not the cassette that didn't fit. Now, if I could just figure out how to remove that frozen BB cup.
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From your pic, the freehub has both UG (external) and HG (internal) threading and should accept either type of cassette. The UG cogs do not need to be aligned to fit and can go on in one of 9 orientations (18 if you flip the cog). HG cogs need to align the fat tab on the cog with the fat slot in the freehub and can go on in only one orientation.
Dura-Ace 7400 hubs had a different freehub attachment method than other Shimano hubs and accept only Dura-Ace freehubs. But I don't think a Dura-Ace 7-speed HG/UG freehub was ever made. Dura-Ace was 8-speed by the time Shimano introduced HG and the hard-to-find Dura-Ace HG/UG freehub is 8-speed. If your freehub is only 7-speed, I don't think it is Dura-Ace. If your hubs are Dura-Ace, I have no idea how someone put a non-Dura-Ace freehub on an old Dura-Ace hub - could be it's just held in place by the axle.
Dura-Ace 7400 hubs had a different freehub attachment method than other Shimano hubs and accept only Dura-Ace freehubs. But I don't think a Dura-Ace 7-speed HG/UG freehub was ever made. Dura-Ace was 8-speed by the time Shimano introduced HG and the hard-to-find Dura-Ace HG/UG freehub is 8-speed. If your freehub is only 7-speed, I don't think it is Dura-Ace. If your hubs are Dura-Ace, I have no idea how someone put a non-Dura-Ace freehub on an old Dura-Ace hub - could be it's just held in place by the axle.
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Dura-Ace 7400 hubs had a different freehub attachment method than other Shimano hubs and accept only Dura-Ace freehubs. But I don't think a Dura-Ace 7-speed HG/UG freehub was ever made. Dura-Ace was 8-speed by the time Shimano introduced HG and the hard-to-find Dura-Ace HG/UG freehub is 8-speed. If your freehub is only 7-speed, I don't think it is Dura-Ace. If your hubs are Dura-Ace, I have no idea how someone put a non-Dura-Ace freehub on an old Dura-Ace hub - could be it's just held in place by the axle.
rothenfield1, you have some terms mixed up I believe. The cassette you have is Hyperglide, not Uniglide:
Uniglide = twist-tooth, all teeth are the same. Slides onto freehub-body in any orientation, even inside-out to use unworn side of teeth
Hyperglide = flat-tooth with recessed shift-ramps on the side of the sprocket. Also has one wider tab on the inside that slides into the wider slot on the freehub (at 12 o'clock position on right cog).
Uniglide - left, Hyperglide - right
FH-7400 = 6-spd UG
FH-7401 = 6/7-spd UG
FH-7402 = 8-spd UG
FH-7403 = 8-spd UG/HG
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