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Old 01-15-10, 01:30 PM   #1
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so i got a carbon fiber zipp handle bar....no brakes?!

i got a carbon fiber zipp drop bar from craigslist for 20$

After I got home, there was a warning stating that this handle bar is not made to have ANY attachments on it what soever.

I really want to put at least a front brake on my bike.

What should I do?

I am suppose to ride fixed gear?


What do you guys think I should do?
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i got a carbon fiber zipp drop bar from craigslist for 20$

After I got home, there was a warning stating that this handle bar is not made to have ANY attachments on it what soever.

I really want to put at least a front brake on my bike.

What should I do?

I am suppose to ride fixed gear?


What do you guys think I should do?
You could contact Zipp and ask them if the warning means what you think it means.
http://www.zipp.com/about/contact.php
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All three CF drop bars on the Zipp page show to be brake lever compatible and show a max lever torgue of 8 NM

http://www.zipp.com/bars/slc2-bar#

http://www.zipp.com/bars/contour-sl-bar#

http://www.zipp.com/bars/sl-bar#
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"No Attachments" = No aerobars, no handlebar bags.
Brake levers are kind of a necessity, for normal riders who don't have a death wish.
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"No Attachments" = No aerobars, no handlebar bags.
Brake levers are kind of a necessity, for normal riders who don't have a death wish.
Don't the normal forces of aggressive riding on handlebars and Hoods FAR exceed any forces that would be added by adding clip-on aero bars? Just a thought. I'm not sure I'd want to use any handlebar for normal riding that wasn't strong enough to handle clip-ons.

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Don't the normal forces of aggressive riding on handlebars and Hoods FAR exceed any forces that would be added by adding clip-on aero bars? Just a thought. I'm not sure I'd want to use any handlebar for normal riding that wasn't strong enough to handle clip-ons.

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No.

The bolt torque required is much greater to prevent movement. In a TT position a substantial portion of the riders weight is on the armrests which may or may not be directly above the bar.
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"no attachments" = no aerobars, no handlebar bags.
Brake levers are kind of a necessity, for normal riders who don't have a death wish.
Maybe these bars are designed for the latest breed of idiot cyclist.



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No.

The bolt torque required is much greater to prevent movement. In a TT position a substantial portion of the riders weight is on the armrests which may or may not be directly above the bar.
Yeah, you've got to clamp them down pretty tight to keep them from moving. How did they get the name "clip-on" anyway? I would that would be more of a problem than the weight.
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A whole lot of Zipp bars sold through my LBS and all of them leave on bikes with brakes. By attachments, I think they mean aero bars and the like. Imagine how much torque could be applied to the bar should someone push themselves up from the aero position.
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Zipp has some posts on their website on how to recognize their bars from the knockoffs that were sold on ebay, you might check it out.

http://www.zipp.com/support/warranty/counterfeit.php

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I will post a picture of it as soon as I can, then we can all have a discussion. Thanks all for the input so far.
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I think this discussion done got had.
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Don't the normal forces of aggressive riding on handlebars and Hoods FAR exceed any forces that would be added by adding clip-on aero bars?
I 'd think it's the potential for crimping the tube they're worried about, rather than the force as such.
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$20 for Zipp anythings?
That sounds very fishy to me, even used.
Are they still sound?
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$20 for Zipp anythings?
That sounds very fishy to me, even used.
Are they still sound?
Yeah, I agree with that as well. The short and shallow bar sells for $300. Even used, they're normally in $100+ range.
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Maybe these bars are designed for the latest breed of idiot cyclist.



haha whats the point? The only use I can think of is that your brake cable doesn't get rapped up during bar spins...its a FG thang
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what brake cable? I don't see a brake cable. The bike doesn't even have brakes.
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That is the new SOMA air brake.
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what brake cable? I don't see a brake cable. The bike doesn't even have brakes.
Man good eye, not sure how I didnt notice that
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haha whats the point?
Might be a legal feint. Over here(and probably in other places as well) it's a legal requirement that a bicycle that is ridden in traffic has to have a brake, and back pressure on the pedals on a fixie doesn't qualify. Something like that just might be an attempt as maintaining both fixie aesthetics and making it road legal.
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If the rider is truly concerned about aesthetics maybe they should try putting the brake lever on their bullhorns and connecting it to an attractive caliper brake. I mean really, the only thing more visually aggravating than no brakes on a fixie is pretend ones.
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here are the images









There's the warning, I think I'll call them Monday. What do you guys think? Can I put brake levers on these? (not the shifter/brakes in one)



It has a bit of scruff on it..doesn't seem too deep. What do you guys think? Safe to use? 20$ from craigslist...so I don't know what to expect.


Need some opinions and thoughts. Also how do I wrap this? With bartape all the way to the top?

Thanks!

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definitely call them and they will clarify for you what that warning means. wrap them with bar tape all the way up to where the bar starts to get skinnier. dont wrap all the way to the stem.
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Calling them really isn't necessary. It's a road handlebar. Road handlebars are designed to have brake levers/STIs/Ergos/DoubleTaps. That area of the handlebar is reinforced, the area where aerobars would go is not (nor is it even round. The warning is probably on there because some idiot tried to clamp aerobars onto an ovoid handlebar and cracked the hell out of it.) I know I'm just a lowly Zipp dealer, but I really DO know what I'm talking about...

If you really want to call them though, their number is: 1-800-472-3972. Don't forget that we're on Eastern time here.

Wrap the bars to about 10mm away from the Zipp logo and the model logo. That will allow the electrical tape to come right up to the logos without covering them.

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