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    Is snow bad for bike?

    My bike was under the snow for a month. I see some rust on it now mainly on bolts etc which usually rust with time. What other parts might be affected? Is storing under snow really bad? I mean snow kind of protects from the cold so I though it won't be that bad but on the other hand it is water.

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    almost as bad as soaking your bike... Did that to one of my bike (which has been stolen since), and next spring i had to change the cables, the bottom bracket (loose ball & cups), a shifter and i don't remember what else. Just to say that it's not a good idea and i won't do that again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s5s View Post
    My bike was under the snow for a month. I see some rust on it now mainly on bolts etc which usually rust with time. What other parts might be affected? Is storing under snow really bad? I mean snow kind of protects from the cold so I though it won't be that bad but on the other hand it is water.
    lol.. cold is not bad for your bike.. it actually does nothing at all. Water on the other hand is horrible and leaving it out like that is destroying your bike. Depending on the material your frame can rust and weaken, all the components that are not aluminum will rust and weaken, your chain will become useless, cables useless, etc. Things do not rust over time.. they rust by being exposed to water. folks on here have bikes that are decades old without a spot of rust because they are maintained and stored in a proper way.

    basically you have a bunch of work and $ ahead of you to fix your mistake.
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    It's not good for your bike but it's not the end of the world either. In the winter try really hard to avoid salt used to melt snow and ice on roads and sidewalks. Salty water is much more corrosive.
    Find a dry place to store your bike. Temperature changes won't hurt a dry bike.

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    Human beings: water-good, cold-bad

    Bicycles: water-bad, cold-good

    maybe that will help

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    YES! any kind of moisture on the bike for long periods of time WILL cause damage.
    Best you tear down the whole bike and fully dry out, clean and lube all parts ASAP.
    Lest you enjoy having to struggle to get things like the stem seatpost and BB cups off the frame and possibly end up destroying those components AND frame in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al1943 View Post
    Temperature changes won't hurt a dry bike.
    This is true, but temperature changes in humid air lead to condensation, which in turn can cause problems.

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    I think storing a salty bike outside is preferable to storing it indoors because you slow the chemical reaction of corrosion.

    Moving it inside will mainly do the bike a favor if you get any road salt off of it. The salt will attract moisture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage sale GT View Post
    I think storing a salty bike outside is preferable to storing it indoors because you slow the chemical reaction of corrosion.

    Moving it inside will mainly do the bike a favor if you get any road salt off of it. The salt will attract moisture.
    but leaving the bike in the freaking snow means it being covered in moisture.. continuously. so it kinda negates any "good" poiints of being outside.. which i think are minimal.

    he's already left it in a snowbank for a month so the bike is going to need major fixing regardless of finding a new place to put it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakedatc View Post
    but leaving the bike in the freaking snow means it being covered in moisture.. continuously. so it kinda negates any "good" poiints of being outside.. which i think are minimal.

    he's already left it in a snowbank for a month so the bike is going to need major fixing regardless of finding a new place to put it
    Since salt is hygroscopic, you can have warm, wet moisture or cold, frozen moisture. Cold and frozen are better, unless the bike is thoroughly washed before being put away.

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    Unless you're in a place where it is snowing and then it is just plain moisture. It's like which is better leaving it in the rain or leaving it in the shower. it doesn't matter it is still getting wet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakedatc View Post
    Unless you're in a place where it is snowing and then it is just plain moisture. It's like which is better leaving it in the rain or leaving it in the shower. it doesn't matter it is still getting wet
    Cold slows chemical reactions. "but I wasn't aware of that when I completed your sentence!"

    Do you really think ice is as reactive as liquid water?
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    The only things that are rusty is the stainless steel chain only at a few points. Also the crankset has some rust powder on it. The bolts are a bit rusty cause I've damaged the heads with the hex key and I've removed the protective cover. I think it's ok. Besides it wasn't a lot of snow. I live in the UK and it's always raining here. Also it's very humid (I guess O.o). But come on it's a bike - it breaks you buy a new one. I already have 3 and I've left one somewhere around in the town - don't even remember where. It was a ****y bike. My 2 new bikes are very good and expensive but still - if they break I'll buy a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s5s View Post
    if they break I'll buy a new one.
    Then why the hell do you ask ? Throw it away and go buy another one !

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    Hmmm ... like tartar protects your teeth from sugar ... uh uh ... NG sport
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    Would tossing a bike in a lake do any damage? Bikes are not meant to be submerged in water. Cables, chain, fasteners, bearings, frame, seat, bar tape, etc

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    Actually snow isn't moisture until it melts, at least in my experience. I do bicycle winters and have for a lot of years. I wind up oiling the chain maybe 3 times as often as in the summer because it gets snow (and wet from the work) on it every time you go somewhere.

    Other than that I have never noticed much of a difference at all. I have 4 bikes locked up outside in the back yard. A part of the rim of each of the wheels will be under snow the whole winter if I don't ride one of them, and that happens to maybe one bike a winter. I never notice a difference between the part of the rim that is under the snow and the rest of the rim.

    Wouldn't worry about it. If there is visible rust, just wiping a bit of oil on it makes a big difference. You mentioned rust on the stainless steel. If it is just rust showing through chrome plating you can rub it with steel wool which gets rid of most of it, then wipe it with oil. It nearly disappears completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s5s View Post
    The only things that are rusty is the stainless steel chain only at a few points. Also the crankset has some rust powder on it. The bolts are a bit rusty cause I've damaged the heads with the hex key and I've removed the protective cover. I think it's ok. Besides it wasn't a lot of snow. I live in the UK and it's always raining here. Also it's very humid (I guess O.o). But come on it's a bike - it breaks you buy a new one. I already have 3 and I've left one somewhere around in the town - don't even remember where. It was a ****y bike. My 2 new bikes are very good and expensive but still - if they break I'll buy a new one.
    It's what you don't see that will bite you worst!.....say...........stuck seatpost or stem???? Moisture just loves to make permanent bonds between these components and your frame.......Oh, I forgot, same goes for bottom bracket cups.
    Just have one encounter with a stuck seatpost or stem and I betcha you will never ever leave your bike outside again....ever......fer shure.....

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    is salt bad for chain? With the bike under snow, it inevitably gets wet, and any exposed metal will rust.

    How is babby formed, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadawdy View Post

    is salt bad for chain? With the bike under snow, it inevitably gets wet, and any exposed metal will rust.

    How is babby formed, anyway?
    salt crystals aren't bad for the chain. they're only bad when they're in brine form, or salt water. brine really does a good job of displacing the protective lube on the chain. And as we all probably know from chemistry: steel + water + air = rust. salt in water acts as a catalyst to speed up the oxidation.

    it's not 'snow' that's bad, it's the stuff in the snow, or melted slushy snow that's bad for the chain.

    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    It's what you don't see that will bite you worst!.....say...........stuck seatpost or stem???? Moisture just loves to make permanent bonds between these components and your frame.......Oh, I forgot, same goes for bottom bracket cups.
    Just have one encounter with a stuck seatpost or stem and I betcha you will never ever leave your bike outside again....ever......fer shure.....

    Chombi
    The guy obviously cares very little about maintaining his bikes, to the point that "when it breaks he buys a new one". I would bet good money that a seized component or two are the last things that are going to stop him from leaving his bikes outside. In the snow. For a freaking month. I'm not exactly fastidious about cleaning my bikes, especially my "beater" commuter during the winter, but I rarely leave them sitting outside exposed to rain or snow. no point in having more harm come to your frame/components than is nescessary.

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    Frozen water in tubes (seat and chain stays) can cause them to burst destroying the frame. There is a posting around here from about 1 month ago that had this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWinVA View Post
    Frozen water in tubes (seat and chain stays) can cause them to burst destroying the frame. There is a posting around here from about 1 month ago that had this.
    heh, first I've heard of that. the water would really need to fill the tubes completely, as in water tight, and there are drainage holes all over the bike.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    heh, first I've heard of that. the water would really need to fill the tubes completely, as in water tight, and there are drainage holes all over the bike.
    Not always. I've seen two aluminum frames with "popped" tubes from ice. A single vent hole in the bottom of a tube becomes a vent hole in the top of a tube if the bike is stored upside down, for example. It happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helicomatic View Post
    Not always. I've seen two aluminum frames with "popped" tubes from ice. A single vent hole in the bottom of a tube becomes a vent hole in the top of a tube if the bike is stored upside down, for example. It happens.
    That's BS. It might appear to have been snow but I assure you it is something else that damaged the frame. Either that or the frame was already damaged and snow just finished it.

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