Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Cutting down a carbon steerer - DIY or let a pro wrench handle it?

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Cutting down a carbon steerer - DIY or let a pro wrench handle it?

Old 06-04-10, 10:31 AM
  #1  
born again cyclist
Thread Starter
 
Steely Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,402

Bikes: I have five of brikes

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 201 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 31 Posts
Cutting down a carbon steerer - DIY or let a pro wrench handle it?

so i got a new motobecane from bikesdirect.com several weeks ago and now that i'm satisfied with the vertical position of the stem, i've got about an extra 1.5" of steerer tube sticking up with spacers in between the stem and top cap. everything works perfectly fine, but i'm obviously not crazy about the aesthetics of the extra 1.5" inches sticking up from the stem.

i've cut down a steel steerer before with a pipe cutter, but the steerer on my new motobecane is carbon and that's a material i'm just not familiar with. my question: is cutting down a carbon steerer literally as easy as measuring things up and taking a pipe cutter to it, or is futzing around with carbon a job better left to a professional at a bike shop?
Steely Dan is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 10:41 AM
  #2  
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've never taken a saw to a bike in my life -- so don't put too much faith in anything I say on this -- but I think you're supposed to use a hack saw on carbon rather than a pipe cutter, I believe the pipe cutter puts too much sidewall stress on the carbon. But you better check with others....
peebee is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 10:44 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Yellowbeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 855
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Don't use a pipe cutter for anything. Hacksaw with something to guide the cut.
Yellowbeard is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 10:47 AM
  #4  
Listen to me
 
powers2b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lexus Texas
Posts: 2,788
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
High speed is your friend.
Cuts the fibers and seals the resin.
Use a diamond blade (tile saw) or cutoff wheel (dremel).
NEVER A HACKSAW
Use a jig to guide the cut.
Sandpaper the edges and you are done.

The cutting of carbon fiber composites is more of a grinding process then a cutting process; essentially, you want to grind away the fiber and resin slowly to make the cut.

Enjoy

Last edited by powers2b; 06-04-10 at 10:50 AM.
powers2b is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 11:37 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 57
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wrap the steer tube with electrical tape at the cut point and use a hacksaw. You can clamp it (lightly!) in a vice to help guide your cut. Easy.
john_iverson is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 11:41 AM
  #6  
AEO
Senior Member
 
AEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Posts: 12,257

Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Cut it outside and don't forget to wear a respirator.
carbon fibre dust is very similar to asbestos.
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
AEO is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 12:56 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,760
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked 1,200 Times in 760 Posts
Originally Posted by powers2b
High speed is your friend.
Cuts the fibers and seals the resin.
Use a diamond blade (tile saw) or cutoff wheel (dremel).
NEVER A HACKSAW
Use a jig to guide the cut.
Sandpaper the edges and you are done.

The cutting of carbon fiber composites is more of a grinding process then a cutting process; essentially, you want to grind away the fiber and resin slowly to make the cut.

Enjoy
This actually isn't as tricky as the above implies. Cutting with a fine tooth hacksaw works perfectly fine, at least for me and pros who have told me to do it this way - including the Park Tool website:

https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=111

The cut with a fine tooth hacksaw is very smooth without any fiber breakage or raggedness.

This job is actually quite simple, but the old saying of "measure twice, cut once" should be followed, even if you're a very confident person!! Also, since you have so much to work with (1 1/2"), I might suggest that you do a practice cut, maybe take 3/4" off it, just to see how your technique works.

I've cut a couple using my miter box and hack saw. The miter box isn't an optimal way to guide the saw for this though and I might try some other sort of guide next time. However, it worked fine in the end.

With my miter box, I wasn't able to get it perfectly square cut, and had to finish the job with a large flat file to get it squared up. It was a little fussy to carefully square up the cut. I found the high spot using a carpenter's square, sighting towards a window to see the light peeking through the lower area. I marked the high area with a pencil, and then carefully flat-filed to bring down that area. Re-sight, repeat, etc. Took about 5-10 minutes (easy does it!). You could do the same thing with a bench belt or wheel sander - ASSUMING you know how to use it, select the correct grit and are very, very careful!!!

I'll probably do it the same way next time since it's not that tough to square it off with a file, and I feel comfortable doing it, but really, it would be much easier to either buy a dedicated cutting guide that are available for cutting steer tubes, or I've read that two hose clamps can be used as a guide.

I also lightly dressed the edges - inside and out - with a file (flat file for outside, round/rat tail file for inside). This was just a tiny, tiny bit to take the sharp edge off. Not really noticable visually, but you can feel it. You could do the same thing with sand paper.

Finally, if you're at all uncomfortable, take the bike - as is - to whatever bike shop you have the best luck with and tell them to cut the steer tube and install the stem in exactly the same position you currently have it. It should be a minimum shop charge for that (whatever their minimum is). I'm thinking $25 or so would be reasonable.

Last edited by Camilo; 06-04-10 at 01:04 PM.
Camilo is offline  
Old 06-04-10, 01:13 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,953
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
I wrap the steerer tube with tape (blue painters tape is good) to minimize fraying and get a clear marking line.
Use a NEW fine tooth (metal blade) hacksaw and cut away, paying attention to get a straight cut.
Wet the area with a spray bottle or your bidon as you cut. This keeps the dust trapped in the water and cleans the blade teeth.
Do this outside, you don't want to breathe carbon dust.

sand it lightly to round out the edges a bit and that's it!
cruiserhead is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gimer202
General Cycling Discussion
7
06-24-14 08:23 AM
rms13
Bicycle Mechanics
14
06-16-14 12:46 PM
bobonker
Road Cycling
11
06-02-11 09:29 AM
professorbob
Bicycle Mechanics
3
09-22-10 06:45 PM
Adam Clark
Bicycle Mechanics
7
06-12-10 09:00 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.