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Old 07-11-10, 09:00 AM   #1
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Trigger shifters on curved bar

Any problems transferring trigger shifters and brake levers from a straight bar to a curved bar like the Nitto Northroad?

http://harriscyclery.net/product/nit...dlebar-411.htm

Will the shifters and brake levers end up in a natural position directly in front of the hands?

Bike is Jamis Coda Sport.
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The trick to mounting triggers on a curved bar is to orient them for best position. Usually that means clamping them near the end of the curved section as it begins to straighten out. If the bar has a long enough straight section for lever clamps and still room for grips that's the obvious option. If not you have a choice of trimming the grips shorter or working with the curve. This may not be entirely bad, sometimes the curve can be used to advantage allowing you to modify the orientation of the shift lever or increase the throw of brake levers.
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When you say "straight section" do you mean the section with the grips? That section is 8" long. Currently I have twist grips successfully mounted on this bar, just behind the bend (toward the rider).


The source of my confusion is that trigger shifters (which I've never had before) are mounted in front of you on a straight bar. On my bar they would be mounted on the "side" of the bar. Will my thumbs have free and natural access to the shifters in this position?
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With an 8" straight section you have plenty of room to work with, and so are free to use that or move them up onto the beginning of the curve, if you prefer.

Don't worry about the orientation of the shift lever in space, the issue is the orientation with respect to your hand, which is the same whether your knuckles face forward on a typical straight bar, or outward on a Northroad bar. You'll probably need to do some experimentation to find your personally ideal position, but nothing about your new bars will prevent that.
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Excellent, thanks. That's exactly what I needed to know. I actually prefer twistgrips, which would avoid this problem entirely, but it appears few bikes have them nowadays.
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I actually prefer twistgrips, which would avoid this problem entirely, but it appears few bikes have them nowadays.
I have a bunch of New old stock Sram twisters for both Shimano and Sram systems. Let me know what you need, and how many speeds, and I'll see if I have something for you.
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27 speed Jamis Coda Sport. How do you think twistgrips and trigger shifters compare? Twistgrips seem simpler to me, and you can skip over a bunch of rear gears at a time. But maybe twistgrips put more pressure on the wrist over the course of a long day? (formerly had carpal tunnel syndrome)
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27 speed Jamis Coda Sport. How do you think twistgrips and trigger shifters compare? Twistgrips seem simpler to me, and you can skip over a bunch of rear gears at a time. But maybe twistgrips put more pressure on the wrist over the course of a long day? (formerly had carpal tunnel syndrome)
I'm getting dizzy. First you ask about triggers, then you state a preference for twisters, and lament their lack of availability, than when offered some, ask for opinions and bring up carpal tunnel.

Either is fine, triggers will work on your bars, so will twisters, so it's purely a matter of personal taste.

I'm not going to debate the relative merits, you got insulted on another thread when I implied that you were a newbie. You can't have it both ways, either you're an experienced cyclist with your own preferences, or you lack experience and want advice. Otherwise you're just wasting people's time.
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Awful hot in New York? Not sure what to suggest for your dizziness, but rest assured of my sympathy.

"Either you're an experienced cyclist with your own preferences, or you lack experience and want advice." That black and white? I hope I never get to a point in my life where I know everything and there's nothing more to learn about my various pursuits and discuss with others.

Course, if you have something better to do than fool around with silly people on the internet, you probably should. Biking would be a possibility.
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Awful hot in New York?
Absolutely right, it is hot. But even if it weren't, I'd rather give of myself to those who really want or need help, not wannbe Hamlet's who want to anguish over stuff that doesn't really matter.

You asked if triggers would work, I told you yes. Then you stated you preferred twisters but couldn't find them, so I offered help there, making the first reply moot. Then you come back with a merits debate, and bring up carpal tunnel. You're thread on 165 cranks followed a similar vein.

I agree that even experienced people continue to learn, but at some point you have to use experience to formulate your own opinions. It doesn't matter what others think, even experts. What matters is what you prefer. For that you have two choices, leave well enough alone, or climb the fence to see if the grass is indeed greener on the other side. Either way you have to get off the fence and ride your bike.

BTW- twisters vs. triggers. I have old fashioned thumbshifters on my commuter here in New York, and twisters on the get-around bike I keep in Cozumel. Both work fine, and I have a minor preference for the thumb-shifter because it's less prone to accidental shifting, but though the Cozumel bike is newer, the twisters were stock and I never thought it was worth the effort or expense to switch. Maybe when they die, I'll replace them with triggers, but most likely I'll just use whatever I lay my hands on first.
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Aha, I see. A common internet bully. Not interested.
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Aha, I see. A common internet bully. Not interested.
I guess I'm a bully. Never been called that before, but that's OK. It's the "common" that hurts. I've never been described as common in any way, and would hate it if it were true.

In any case, I invite anyone reading this (who actually gives a hoot) to read this thread from the beginning and draw their own conclusions.
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Old 07-11-10, 10:24 PM   #13
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I'm with FB on this one. You asked a question and he answered it. If you want someone to talk you out of something, go find a mirror.
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FB has offered you nothing but decent answers to your posts in this thread. Yet you paint him as a villian. You're finding skeletons in the closet where there are none. And besides, he's right. You are either an experienced rider that SHOULD know what equipment is good for your needs and not have to wiffle waffle back and forth or you're an enthusiastic low timer that could use some guidance but doesn't seem to want to admit to it. Someone needs to stop and examine their attitude but I don't see that it's FB in this case. From having followed much of his posting over a couple of years if there is anyone that I would be least likely to classify as an "internet bully" it is FBinNY. You think you have it rough now? Wait until operator chimes in ! ! !
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just smile and nod.

as for CT, you can still get CT in your thumb from the trigger shifters, if my 7sp ST-EF50 are any indication, since the thumb trigger is pretty heavy.
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[QUOTE=FBinNY;11096156]I've never been described as common in any way, and would hate it if it were true. QUOTE]

If you want to be extraordinary rather than common, start with kindness, generosity of spirit, and patience. Those are in short supply in the world. How you make people feel about themselves is one of the best markers of your character. People value that much more than any specific knowledge you offer them. That's what people remember about you.

When you develop a following of people who value your knowledge, take care not to confuse that with affirmation of your character. Knowledge is easily gained. It takes a lifetime of thought to build character and learn to relate to people with respect and sensitivity. That's what makes a person stand out as more than ordinary.
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See we can agree!!

Read my posts on both of your threads, and any of my other posts and you'll see that like many others here, I meet your criteria for kindness, generosity, and patience. You received plenty of help, but unfortunately since we give you our time and attention for free, you assign it no value, and in the end wore out my patience. (I can't and don't speak for others)

As I said, I try to help folks who want or need help with a particular technical issue. It's free, but my time and patience aren't infinite, and in your case it simply gave out. Instead of griping about the fact that I stopped helping you, you might actually thank me for the time I did give you, which wasn't inconsiderable. BTW- say whatever you will, I've finished my coffee and am moving on.
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I certainly did thank you and was polite to you throughout. You are unbelievably pompous and snide, which can only indicate low self-esteem and insecurity. People who feel secure and have self-esteem have no need to belittle others. Does it make you feel powerful to know that you chased away a new member? Good for you then. But don't fancy yourself as anything other than a bully who doesn't like it when things don't go his way.
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If it makes you feel better to call me a pompous, snide bully, feel free.

I've already said I was going to ignore your other posts so, you shouldn't let me, or what you think of me influence your decision to find a "friendlier" forum, or continue to post on this one. It's a big world out there, and so that you don't feel the need to keep this up, I admit it publicly, you're a gem, and I'm an A-hole, now why don't you stop the name calling and move on.
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