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Old 08-03-10, 03:39 AM   #1
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Can some one fix them for me?

Some of you may have seen my topics about my brakes not working any more, well that mean I need to go to halfuds and get them fixed but phoned them up and they said they don't think they can do any thing but I can take them down. They also said I'll have to pay to get them fixed.

So, I need some one who knows a lot about Hydraulic to fix them for me. I'll pay 10 for getting them fixed and also will send postage money to send them back so won't be using your own money.

So if you are a active member on here and you think you can fix them then reply in here and will drop one of you a PM.

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Paul

Btw, they are Bikehut Hi-Performance Hydraulic Rear Disc Brake & Bikehut Hi-Performance Hydraulic Front Disc Brake.
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Old 08-03-10, 03:47 AM   #2
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What is wrong with your brakes?

If they just need to be bled and set up I'd take the bike into a good shop... it is not an overly expensive service and something you could do yourself with the proper kit.
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Old 08-03-10, 03:54 AM   #3
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Not rely to sure, I was spraying my bike with WD40 and some went on brakes so I take them of the bike and opend them up and cleaned them, but when I put them back, put them on bike they don't work.

Brake oil is getting in ok but some reason it don't close the brakes pads things, they don't move.

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Old 08-03-10, 06:39 AM   #4
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Apparently you lost some brake fluid and got air into the system. You will need to bleed the entire system to get them to work properly. Bite the bullet and take them to a proper bike shop that knows what it is doing.

As far as I know Halfords (not halfuds, right?) is primarily an automobile parts and accessory dealer that also sells bikes, sort of like Western Auto was in the US years ago. Theredore, I expect their level of mechanical knowledge for bikes is pretty limited so i'd be worried about having them work on something as essential as my brakes.
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"Theredore, I expect their level of mechanical knowledge for bikes is pretty limited so i'd be worried about having them work on something as essential as my brakes."

No:

Halfuds (sic) Halfords UK run 'Bike Hut'; an in-store repair and bike sales service area with Cyclax-trained supervisory staff in most stores. The (trained) staff are up to servicing everything including user 'adjusted' disc brakes. Whether you get a trained mechanic on a Saturday morning is about the same chance as any other bike store.
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Paul, the next few lines are not intended to slam you but to open your eyes and make you think before you mess up anything else on your bike.

You did about 3 things I can see from a quick read that were just plain mistakes out of ignorance (not ignorance as an insult but ignorance being that you just don't know). Pile these onto your earlier messups on those hydraulic brakes and it's no wonder Halfords has to charge you for fixing your mistakes. Your other posts show that you're as much a babe in the woods about everything else mechanical on your bike as well. Before you even THINK about touching anything on your bike for any reason at all you need to stop and do some research about the systems you're intending to invade. I think I gave you this one before, www.parktool.com/repair . You need to use that sight before you so much as lift up a screwdriver the next time. Also find a manual on servicing hydraulic brakes that are for your set or at least similar to yours.

And keep in mind for the future that there's only a small handful of products that should be used on a brake system. And WD40 is certainly not one of them. At NO time should WD40 be used on anything on, in or even around a hydraulic brake system or on the rotors.
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To help you along I googled for "hydraulic bicycle brake repair" and got these in the results. Yes they are not for YOUR system but the steps to take and the knowledge about how to work on hydraulic brakes are much the same for any system.

http://www.hayesdiscbrake.com/wp-con...EnglishWeb.pdf

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb...brake-service/

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-bl...icycle-261910/
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Paul,

Please take the time to read and learn more before attempting to work on your bike or interacting with techs at Halfords. The reason they want to charge you for work is that you unknowingly messed things up. This is not an issue of faulty manufacturing or improper work on their part so of course you would have to pay a mechanic to sort this out. There are great online resources for information if you want to do this yourself but please take the tie to read and comprehend completely before you go on. We want to encourage participation in cycling so don't let the discouragement dampent your enthusiasim and please be carefull, brake failures are dangerous.

Try this link too:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/
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No:

Halfuds (sic) Halfords UK run 'Bike Hut'; an in-store repair and bike sales service area with Cyclax-trained supervisory staff in most stores. The (trained) staff are up to servicing everything including user 'adjusted' disc brakes. Whether you get a trained mechanic on a Saturday morning is about the same chance as any other bike store.
OK, you are a lot closer to them than I am since you are a UK resident and I've only been there as a visitor. I just remember them as primarily an automotive supply house with bikes being a side line.

To the OP: BCRider's advice is the best you are going to get. Either properly study the mechanics of what you are working on on let those who have do it. Your safety and well being depend on doing these jobs properly.
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Thanks for replys all, I got my dad to take me Halfords today with the brakes in a bag, when I got there they told me that I've got to take my bike with me until then they can't help me so I still don't know what is wrong.

So, now i've got the proplem off getting to Halfords when I have no brakes to use on my bike and it's about 1H walk. Don't wnat to get there and them to tell me I have to leave it there and they say I'll have to leave it with them.

So, any way will keep you updated.

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Well it makes sense that the only way that they can ensure a properly working system is if they have it all there.
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I wouldn't touch brakes in a bag either. Bring the entire bike in. Do not wrench on a bike until you have built up your competence. The best way IMHO to learn how to work on bikes is to get a really cheap one, tear it apart, put it back together, then donate it to someone who needs basic transportation.
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I wouldn't touch brakes in a bag either. Bring the entire bike in. Do not wrench on a bike until you have built up your competence. The best way IMHO to learn how to work on bikes is to get a really cheap one, tear it apart, put it back together, then donate it to someone who needs basic transportation.
When did it become ok to experiment with someone else's life as long as you're not the one that has to test ride your own fixes. lol...you are kidding right?
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This is not a "drop in and wait" sort of job. You will almost certainly have to leave the bike for a couple of days to a week at this time of year since the service department work book will be clogged with people needing things done that were there before you.

Put the old mechanical brakes back on and ride the bike there along with the "brakes in a bag". Leave the bike so they can repair the new stuff and install it on your bike and get it working so that you do not need to touch it again. Take the bus or metro home and come back the same way when it's all done and then ride home.
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When did it become ok to experiment with someone else's life as long as you're not the one that has to test ride your own fixes. lol...you are kidding right?
The assumption was some basic level of competence so that the bike returned to the thrift store would be better than when it was acquired. So yes, I would pick up the thrift store/garage sale bike, tear it down, rebuild it. If you are concerned with technique, then take it to the curb. If you are pleased with the results, pass it on.
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