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    Replacing an internal hub

    I have a Dutch three speed (Gazelle Toer Populair) that I want to convert to a five-speed. Simple enough? At present, the bike has a Sturmey-Archer AB hub with a drum brake that is rod-activated. Sturmey-Archer makes a five-speed wide-range model with the same drum brake setup -- the XL-RD5(W). My idea is to replace the old hub with the XL, using the old rim but essentially building up a new wheel.

    Any unforeseen headaches anyone can see? I know I'll need to have the frame stretched out in the back by about 6 mm on each side. Anything else? Am I crazy?

    Thanks!

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    are the old wheels steel or alloy? you can't find a decent prebuilt wheel/set that will work on the bike?

    the axle will fit the dropouts right? not the spacing as noted above but actually go in the slots?
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    Sounds reasonable, especially if you do the work yourself. It would be pretty expensive to pay someone to do it.
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    axles same length?
    Probably need different length spokes , unless hub flange diameter and the width of the flanges apart are identical ,

    But other than that , since you are getting another drum stopper that should be fine ..

    people have reduced the width by changing the spacer/nut combo on the left side.

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    Thanks for the input. I am not yet discouraged! The axle is indeed the same diameter, so it should fit in the dropouts. Is there a downside to changing the left-side spacer/nut?

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    You have data on the overlocknut width distance of the 2 hubs in question?

    people have used much wider hubs in narrow dropout frames
    like fitting Sturmey 8 speed hubs in Brompton rear ends by shortening the stack on the one side it's possible .
    then there may be some 'dish', re-centering the rim as the center line between the hub flanges is displaced
    from under the center line of the rim ..

    Rod brake likely replaced by a cable operated brake .. simple enough housing runs from handlebar lever
    to the stop on the hub..

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