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Old 10-03-10, 10:21 AM   #1
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Campy Veloce Shift Problem - seek advice

When I depress the right hand thumb lever the rear derailluer shifts all of the way down to the outside gear. It started out intermittently, but now almost every time. I tried lubricating under the hood, but with no effect.
This is the first trouble I've had of any kind. This is the 2008 Veloce version, I think.
Any suggestions before taking it in?
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Old 10-03-10, 10:28 AM   #2
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U need to start by finding out if the veloce brifters are fixable, looks like the retention spring or something is broken, Hope the veloce can be rebuilt.
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I hope it can be rebuilt, too. I'll take it in. My lbs has great mechanics. Just a little far in to town. Thanks for the quick reply. Think i'm going to like this forum! Later...
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When I depress the right hand thumb lever the rear derailluer shifts all of the way down to the outside gear. It started out intermittently, but now almost every time. I tried lubricating under the hood, but with no effect.
This is the first trouble I've had of any kind. This is the 2008 Veloce version, I think.
Any suggestions before taking it in?
Are they the Escape shifters which can only shift one cog smaller at a time?

Those aren't rebuildable, although Campagnolo sells shifters without hoods and brake levers for less money.

Regular pre-2009 Campagnolo shifters (if you had 2007 Veloce) use a pair of G shaped springs (EC-RE209 on the right side, about $3 each depending on where you get them) which wear out and need periodic replacement.
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I'm pretty sure mine are not the Escape. Definitely sounds like a trip to the bike shop! Unless someone has links to rebuild instructions for the Veloce shifters! I might try it with a little paperwork. Thanks Drew.
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Branford bike (www.branfordbike.com) sells repair parts and an instruction booket to guide you with rebuilding Campy brifters. Here is the specific web page: http://branfordbike.com/articles/cam...-2007-pg71.htm

They also offer a rebuild service at $60/lever+parts.
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I'm pretty sure mine are not the Escape. Definitely sounds like a trip to the bike shop! Unless someone has links to rebuild instructions for the Veloce shifters! I might try it with a little paperwork. Thanks Drew.
Apart from the right hand lever screw having a left-hand thread and the thumb return spring getting installed before you've pushed the index gear back on it's pretty straight forward.

If you don't feel like waiting for the printed instructions to come from Branford there are various and youtube videos.
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Thanks for the great advice, guys! I'll give this a shot and let you know how it comes out!
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After a number of searches re Thumb Button Problem I have found this thread that seems to refer exactly to issues that have arisen with my 2008 Veloce (Infinite) Ergopwer QS right hand shifter. When changing from larger to smaller cogs one press of the button results in the chain skipping a number of cogs. I have a 10 speed 11-25 cassette, indexing absolutely fine when shifting from small to large. Mostly happens when changing from one of the middle cogs, and skips down to 12t. What answer did you come up with orbea51? Think I might have a similar problem.
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Here's the current situation. If you have '07-'08 escape shifters, Campy no longer sells individual parts to fix them. They sell a major assembly that includes everything except the brake hood, band clamp and brake lever. The part number is EC-VL100. See page 45 of the linked PDF.

If you have older Veloce or Centaur shifters, they will have the same internals as Record or Chorus and Campy still sells individual parts to repair them. See page 46-47 of the PDF.

Quite often, the cost of the major assembly is not worth it, especially if you have to pay labor to install the part. Current model Veloce shifters are so cheap that it's better in the long run to just buy a new pair of shifters. You get a valuable cable set included with the new shifters.

If you can get 2009-2010 shifters, you'll be buying the new ultrashift mechanism, that's just like the current Chorus and above (except 10 speed). If you buy 2011 shifters, you'll get the new powershift mechanism, that's much like the old escape mechanism.


http://www.campagnolo.com/repository...1-A-061010.pdf
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- thanks DaveSSS - yes, my levers do appear to be the QS Escape ones.( Actually 2007 vintage). No easy fix then? Are the 2010 powershift shifters compatible with a 2007 rear mech? The compatability chart doesn't go back that far.
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- thanks DaveSSS - yes, my levers do appear to be the QS Escape ones.( Actually 2007 vintage). No easy fix then? Are the 2010 powershift shifters compatible with a 2007 rear mech? The compatability chart doesn't go back that far.
Yes, you can mix and match as long as they're all 10 speed.
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Regular pre-2009 Campagnolo shifters (if you had 2007 Veloce) use a pair of G shaped springs (EC-RE209 on the right side, about $3 each depending on where you get them) which wear out and need periodic replacement.
On my old 8spd ones, I just tweaked the springs to get more life out of them; worked fine.
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Thanks everyone - this is helpful. Kimmo - my shifters are QS Escape and as far as I can work out (according to the Campag spares PDF p45) do not have G springs. Escape seem to have a pretty poor reputation too. Any thoughts which are the better 2010/2011 Shifters - Veloce Ultrashift or Powershift? Both are available in the UK, but the 2011 powershift are much cheaper.
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Thanks everyone - this is helpful. Kimmo - my shifters are QS Escape and as far as I can work out (according to the Campag spares PDF p45) do not have G springs. Escape seem to have a pretty poor reputation too. Any thoughts which are the better 2010/2011 Shifters - Veloce Ultrashift or Powershift? Both are available in the UK, but the 2011 powershift are much cheaper.
2010 Ultrashift are better, allowing you to shift up to five cogs smaller in one motion which gets you to the next gear on the small ring when you run out of bigger cogs on the small ring.

2011 Powershift work more like Shimano and Escape, allowing only one cog smaller with each button press.

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I also prefer the 2010. But if you don't care about multiple shifting, go for the cheaper 2011.
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Sorry I didn't notice this post until this morning! I had my bike with me while out of town on vacation a few weeks ago and decided to take it in a local bike shop and see if they had a solution. I left it for their "Campy Guy" to look at the next morning. He called me the following morning and said he had tried to rebuild it a couple of times and talked to the Campy techs, and still had the same problem. He said they were not repairable. He had a 2010 Centaur shifter set and I had him put those on. Wish I had taken them to my shop, but I'm satisfied. Good luck.
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