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    What's a good pump that's not a Topeak?

    I bought a Topeak DX Master Blaster about a year and a half ago, and used it about 3 times before this morning when I wanted to use it to replace the air pressure in the rear tire it lost on the way in. I couldn't get the pump to work, and when I called Topeak customer service they told me I needed to buy a rebuild kit. Even when I pointed out the pump was about a year and a half old and had been used a handful of times. Paying $5 to rebuild a $20 pump that only worked a handful of times doesn't appeal to me, I'd rather buy something that's going to work better and last longer. What would you recommend?

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    i have not bought this before
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    http://www.zefal.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    Thanks, I'd forgotten how nice their products looked.

    I also forgot to ad I'm riding a commuterized mountainbike, 60 psi will do it for the 26x1.5 tires I use.

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    I had an identical experience with the coveted morph. Never again will I buy Topeak.

    I was just about ready to buy a lenzyme when I got my Morph re-pumping with a new o-ring from an Autoparts store.

    After multiple auto parts stores including all LBS and Todson, I found a slightly oversized o-ring that was for refrigiernt that worked. for 99 cents.

    Todson wouldn't even sell me a $15 rebuid kit until they diagnosed my pump over the phone during there working hours.

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    http://www.silcapompe.it/index_en.htm
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    I have 20 year old Silca track pump for my presta valve types
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    The Bontrager pump I have is 5 years old and working fine. The air gage is at the top and the hose is is fairly long and easy to use.

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    I've come to the conclusion that bike pumps are all universally crap largely made in China these days, and you should buy the cheapest one on sale at Nashbar and regard it as a consumable that will get replaced in a couple years.

    I had a great dual-chamber Zefal for about 25 years and was disappointed that I couldn't get parts for it when it finally needed servicing, and ended up getting a top-of-the-line Silca for like $60+ made in Italy, thinking it was going to last the rest of my life, and that any parts would be available. Sent the first one back after it stopped pumping air which I thought was sort of a negative thing for a bike pump. The second one wouldn't pump air after about 6 months. Construction quality was trash. I kept the nice presta valve attachment from the Silca and the rest went into the nearest trash can. I've been using el-cheapo Nashbar pumps ever since. When the original valve attachment wears out, which is usually pretty fast, I use the old Silca valve attachment. When that wears out, they actually have replacement parts for that.

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    I've had good luck with SKS Rennkompressor. Six years of 1-5 uses per month and still going strong. Have had to replace the head a few times. The new ones were supplied free from SKS USA. Sorry to hear Todson isn't working out to well. I needed replacement parts for a road morph and they were mailed free after an email exchange.

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    I love my new Lezyne steel shaft floor pump; far superior to the Topeak Joe Blow I used to use. I also have a bunch of Zefal frame pumps, all of which work wonderfully at 20+ years old.

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    I have a Blackburn floor pump that's worked fine for 3 years, since I got it at a Christmas gift exchange. I also have a Topeak Morph pump that's lived on my bike for 4 years. I got a flat yesterday (first one in months) and it worked perfectly. My only problem with it was that my crappy eyes couldn't read the inline gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    I have the Lezyne "Road Drive", in the bare-metal "color". What I like about it is that the metal (machined aluminum) construction is pretty rugged, and there is a hose that stores inside, so you aren't trying to pump with one end of the pump attached to the valve. It also attains a pretty high pressure (forget the exact figure, but it might be close to 120 psi). They make a version that is lower pressure, but pumps more volume, for MTB use. It's also pretty light (there is an even lighter carbon version, but it's more than twice the price...).

    http://www.lezyne.com/products/hand-...ure/road-drive

    (The above is for a "carry on bike" pump. My home pump is a "Hurricane" model from Performance that I got at a really good price - it has a red barrel, and is unusual in pumping up to 260 psi. My thinking was that if it could do that, it would probably be pretty robust and trouble-free when only used at 125 psi or so...)

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    +1 on the Lezyne Road Drive. I have one and the internally storing hose made this a winner for me. Useful, will not snap your valve and it is invisible.
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    Zefel HPx3 if you can find one or the newer HPX - If you have an old Zefal pump,don't throw it away,rebuild parts are available online from Zefal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    I have a Blackburn floor pump that's worked fine for 3 years, since I got it at a Christmas gift exchange. I also have a Topeak Morph pump that's lived on my bike for 4 years. I got a flat yesterday (first one in months) and it worked perfectly. My only problem with it was that my crappy eyes couldn't read the inline gauge.
    We must have the same vintage eyes. It just ads insult to injury, doesn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by zebede View Post
    I had an identical experience with the coveted morph. Never again will I buy Topeak.

    I was just about ready to buy a lenzyme when I got my Morph re-pumping with a new o-ring from an Autoparts store.

    After multiple auto parts stores including all LBS and Todson, I found a slightly oversized o-ring that was for refrigiernt that worked. for 99 cents.

    Todson wouldn't even sell me a $15 rebuid kit until they diagnosed my pump over the phone during there working hours.
    I bought the minipump after having trouble with the Joe Blow floor pump for the first time. Topeak sent out the replacement parts at no cost to me (besides the ride to work I didn't make because their pump failed) both times, but I'd have bought something besides their minipump if I knew how much trouble I was going to have with their pumps.

    It's been about 5 years since I've been bicycling again, and I've been really lucky with most of the stuff I've bought in that time. I've got a few things I've used that I've kind of "outgrown" to help me get to where I am today, stuff like some lights that aren't bright enough for the faster speeds I'm able to ride at now and the first saddle that felt really comfortable. Stuff that I could recommend with confidence after mentioning how what's better today might not be the right thing later. These Topeak pumps are the only purchases I've made that have been bad enough to recommend avoiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleigh71 View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that bike pumps are all universally crap largely made in China these days, and you should buy the cheapest one on sale at Nashbar and regard it as a consumable that will get replaced in a couple years.
    Note: you gotta check these things out on a regular basis at home between rides. I wonder how many times over the years I've stopped to help another cyclist who had a pump - that didn't work - or a spare tube - that had fold cracks - or a patch kit - with dried out glue-tube/patches?
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    I've joked for many years that I carried a Topeak Road Morph G on my tandem because - due to its pseudo-floor pump design - it's the only pump I'd found that my stoker could get a tire back up to pressure with.

    Seriously, in the real world of roadside repair a lot of the little mini carry along pumps can't get tire pressure up out of pnich flat range.

    That Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HPG looks promising.
    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    Can't go wrong with the Zefal's HPx aluminum frame pump. I had mine that worked flawlessly for over 20 years till I lost it a year ago. The pump has been unchanged since the mid 80's and is still available in better bike shops. I found it to perform much better than newer frame pump I've ecnountered in the recent years on easily inflating HP tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    Note: you gotta check these things out on a regular basis at home between rides. I wonder how many times over the years I've stopped to help another cyclist who had a pump - that didn't work - or a spare tube - that had fold cracks - or a patch kit - with dried out glue-tube/patches?


    After my flat Sunday I was checking my patch kits at home (it was threatening rain when I was riding, so I threw in the spare [uncracked] tube and got gone). I checked the primary kit: dried up glue. I checked the back-up on-bike kit: dried-up glue. I dug out the spare kit from the back of the bike stuff bin: yep, dried-up glue. Sigh... although it's kind of nice to not get flats frequently enough to need patch kits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post


    After my flat Sunday I was checking my patch kits at home (it was threatening rain when I was riding, so I threw in the spare [uncracked] tube and got gone). I checked the primary kit: dried up glue. I checked the back-up on-bike kit: dried-up glue. I dug out the spare kit from the back of the bike stuff bin: yep, dried-up glue. Sigh... although it's kind of nice to not get flats frequently enough to need patch kits.
    Glue always dries up in those kits. I usually just save all my hole-ridden tubes for watching a ball game on TV, and I repair a slew of them all at once. After that, I pretty much have to assume that glue will be bad within a week or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post


    After my flat Sunday I was checking my patch kits at home (it was threatening rain when I was riding, so I threw in the spare [uncracked] tube and got gone). I checked the primary kit: dried up glue. I checked the back-up on-bike kit: dried-up glue. I dug out the spare kit from the back of the bike stuff bin: yep, dried-up glue. Sigh... although it's kind of nice to not get flats frequently enough to need patch kits.
    I seem to have flats in spurts. I haven't had a flat in years a couple of years and this year I had 5 or 6 flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    I have a Blackburn floor pump that's worked fine for 3 years, since I got it at a Christmas gift exchange. I also have a Topeak Morph pump that's lived on my bike for 4 years. I got a flat yesterday (first one in months) and it worked perfectly. My only problem with it was that my crappy eyes couldn't read the inline gauge.
    +1 I have two Topeak Joe Blow Pro floor pumps--one at home, and one in the trunk of my main 'bike carrier' car. No problems in five or six years. I used to use a Road Morph, but like Jeff, had trouble reading the inline gauge, so got a Turbo Morph with flip-down analog gauge about four years ago, and have used it about a dozen times for my own and other's flats, and it is still going strong.

    One thing I do that might help is service the working parts of my pumps. A little strategically placed grease does wonders for their longevity.

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    what is wrong with using puncture resistant tyres and tubes? no need tocarry a pump then.
    I have the michelin pro race 3 tyres on my road bike and they have proved to be bomb proof. I started using them on my mountain bike last year after gettng two flat tyres on an off road trail and ended up walking home which was about 60 miles, I had no repair kit, no spare tubes and no pump. I was on a trail only used by cyclicts, dog walkers and horse riders (on a seperate track at the side) I never even thought I would get a flat on there let alone two, so hitting a patch where someone had smashed a bottle in the middle of the path was very unexpected.
    I had no spare tubes anyway so I had to buy new tubes and tyres after mine were pretty cut up. I was also looking at buying a few spare tubes and a pump instead of a repair kit, I don't really trust repair patches. so I ended up getting puncture resistant tyres and tubes and I have never had a flat since.

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    in reply to badamsjr, I second the Joe Blow floor pumps, I have the sport.
    they are well built and the gauge is very accurate, upto 160 PSI.
    all in all, a very good pump.

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