This is a cross posting from this revived thread
in the C+V forum. I did this because it seems
important enough a topic to consider carefully,
and because over in the oldguy forum, there
appear to be a number of people who still use
By virtue of my employment history (city fire department),Originally Posted by Wanderer
No offense taken! But, by definition, mineral spirits, kerosene, diesel fuel, and any other solvents, are just as dangerous if used improperly. If it burns, it's dangerous; and, anyone using ANY solvent , should not be lulled into complacency, thinking they are safe.
Sometimes, it just pays, to pay attention, to what you are doing.
I have possibly more experience than average with the
many instances where gasoline (petrol across the pond)
used as a cleaning agent has brought someone to grief.
I suspect I will not be able to change your mind with
regard to this practice. However:
is not quite accurate in terms of hazard evaluation forby definition, mineral spirits, kerosene, diesel fuel, and any other solvents,
are just as dangerous if used improperly. If it burns, it's dangerous
the various flammables you have listed. What makes
gasoline particularly dangerous is its flash point as
compared to kerosene and diesel fuel.
When you add to this the fact that the vapors that
are gassing (unless you are outdoors in Antarctica)
are heavier than air and tend to pool and run down
hill, you begin to see the problems associated with
using it -- even outdoors.
My own guess as to why those of you who use itIf you had looked
here: http://www.msdsonline.com for gasoline, you would see that the
relative vapor density is in the 3-4 range. That means that
gasoline vapors are 3-4 times as heavy as air and sink like a rock.
You'd also know that if you had ever taken quick look at the vapor
plume emanating from an open gas can. --John De Armond
are still here to tell us about it is that you are
respectful enough of it to use it in very small
amounts -- outdoors. I can tell you from personal
experience that a rupture in a car fuel tank spills
enough gas outdoors to provide a moderate
pucker factor when you run into it on a call.
Anyway, I can certainly regale you for hours with
various cleaning solvent disaster stories (they are
only fun to tell because they happened to others).
I am, myself, partial to deodorized kerosene as a
cleaner for certain difficult jobs on the bike, but
find myself using more and more the available
citrus based degreasers.
Just something more to think about.