53-11 alltheway

I know you can make shimano custom cassettes (Sheldon brown's website), but can the same be done with campy.

I'm too lazy right now to do the research right now....just hoping somebody on here might have already done it and save me the leg work or at least point me in the right direction.

Raiyn

Why so you can have a cassette of nothing but 11's?

gmason

Veloce cassettes are available in loose cog versions. That means that you can mix and match (for 9s or 10s). Note that there are some restrictions - see Branfordbike's Web site - about what cogs are best used in certain positions. The other thing is that these are all steel as I recall, so weight is a factor.

For a 10s cassette, I think this is the only way to get the two largest cogs separately - all others are riveted into pairs at the top end.

And don't forget the need for lockrings to match the smallest cog.

Cheers...Gary

Jonny B

I have a Miche cassette (9spd) that's all seperate. That'd certainly work.

53-11 alltheway

I know the spacers are different width on Campy, but do you think I could substitute in some cheaper shimano cogs.....tearing apart a second campy cassette would be expensive just to get a specific cog or two that I need.

sydney

Shimano has a different spline pattern.

53-11 alltheway

Thank you.

RainmanP

Don't let rivets stop you. The rivets holding groups of cogs together are strictly to ease handling. They have nothing to do with locking the cassette in place once installed and the lockring tightened. Just take a Dremel tool with a little grind stone and gently grind the peened end of the rivet until you can get it out. I do this all the time with Ultegra cassettes. Takes no time because the peened over lip is very thin. On Shimano cassettes it is pretty easy to tell which is the "head" and which is the peened end. The head is a bit rounded while the peen is pretty much flat and flush. I suppose you could grind the head also; I think the peened lip is easier. Yes, you will grind away a tiny bit of the surface of the cog, but this should never be a problem. Sheldon talks about doing this.

sydney

It matters if the cogs are mounted on carriers. DA and Ultegras use loose cogs and carrier mounts for the bigger ones. Shimano 105 and lower casettes can be either riveted or bolted together loose cogs/ spacers..Higher end campys also use carriers. Srams are loose cogs.

gmason

One has to wonder why only the biggest two are mounted together. Only for handling? I suspect possibly that since they are thinner in the 10s versions, they might be together for strength reasons as well. In any case, if it is an issue, warranty is out the window if you separate them.

Cheers...Gary

RainmanP

Thanks for the clarification, Sydney. Definitely something to be aware of. Since I am not picky about my cassettes I buy the basic 105 stuff though occasionally Ultegra as I like the 14-25 9sp cassette which is apparently only available in Ultegra.

Gary, when did you move from The Netherlands? I'm just going by Sheldon's advice which is that the rivets or screws (105 uses tiny allen screws) are irrelevant.

gmason

Hi -

We arrived here at our permanent residence on February 18, 2003. Certainly is different terrain than North Holland.

re the top two sprockets. It looks from the spare parts manuals that Campa - above Veloce - have at least the top pair, and sometimes one or two more pairs, of sprockets as a unit. From the piccies, it appears (as someone mentioned earlier) that the carrier is what fits the splines on the freewheel, while the sprockets do not - they are cut out, probably for weight reasons. Again, as the Veloce loose cogs are steel, there may also be strength issues with the others.

Cheers...Gary

P.S. I ordered my new (and last) bike on Friday. Casati and Chorus. Now the wait for two months.