Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
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You can't put a size 11 foot into a size 9 shoe.
Even with both wheels off and the fork removed your frame will not fit into a non-oversized box or suitcase. Measure from the head tube to the read dropout, and the longest dimension at 90° to that to see the smallest box that it'll fit into. Then add for the wheels and you'll see that you can't beat the system.
Most airlines charge a flat fee for bikes, or for a single oversize carton. Often it's the same, sometimes it's higher for a bike, and some airlines charge double, once for the oversize box, and again because it's a bike. I travel with a hard case that carries the bike and I use the rest of my luggage as packing so it's only a single checked item. I have it silk screened "Scientific instruments" and have thus avoided the higher bike fees.
The airlines have gotten murderous with fees, so check the rules with your carrier and do your best to work within them. Because fees are so high, I now ship my bike out in advance for domestic flights, but this isn't practical for international flights.
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