Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-01-11, 04:03 AM   #1
Road Fan
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Road Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes:
Posts: 12,323
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Need a Campagnolo cable?

I need to replace the rear derailleur inner cable on my Mondonico with Campagnolo 10-speed gearing. Is there anything that special about the Campy-branded cable, or can I use something decent and available such as Jagwire?
Road Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 04:15 AM   #2
Boye
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 68
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The head of the cable is a bit different between Shimano and Campagnolo. The result is that you can't use a Shimano cable in your Campagnolo shifter. But it is possible to make cables compatible with both, so some/most third part cables will be fine in either system.
Boye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 12:09 PM   #3
nwbikeman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington
Bikes: Serotta Davis Phinney, 1992 Serotta T Max,1984 Specialized Allez, Olmo, 1974 Strawberry,Redline bmx, ect.,
Posts: 472
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Use the Campy as some of the other cable heads will become wedged into the shifter and when replacing them later I have had some shifters were they needed the head to be drilled out to replace.
nwbikeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 03:44 PM   #4
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 28,920
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 96 Post(s)
You don't need Campy's own branded cable but you do need to use a Campy-specific end fitting.

Jagwire makes good quality shifter cables with a Shimano fitting at one end and the slightly smaller Campy fitting at the other and you just cut off the unneeded one.

Alternatively, if only Shimano compatible cables are available, some judicious filing can be used to reduce them to Campy diameter.
HillRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 04:01 PM   #5
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 30,017
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
The Campy head is slightly smaller than a Shimano head which can be gotten in, but tends to get stuck there. When I was Campy's east coast service tech, I was kept very busy removing Shimano head cables from ergolevers. It was so regular that I made myself a tool just for that job.

If you buy Jag cables they offer both Campy and Shimano ends, designated with a C or S molded in respectively. Also Sram uses the campy size head as does some of the newer Dura Ace stuff so the right size head is much more common than it used to be.

Whatever you use it should be a very easy slip fit into the cam, and you can test by putting in the head only backward. If there's any hint of resistance you have the wrong head. Also dip the head in grease when installing to make removal easier 2 years from now.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 04:13 PM   #6
Road Fan
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Road Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes:
Posts: 12,323
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
clear info and few dollops of common sense! Thanks, gents! Sounds like if I use a Shimano head, I really need to file it down to a nice smooth fit.

Sounds like installing vintage French stuff.
Road Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-11, 07:27 PM   #7
ultraman6970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 7,860
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes u have to file the head enough to fit and be sure it is some lose also, the issue is that if it fits too tight u wont be able to take the cable out, in that case u have to drill it out. U can use a dremel, is faster
ultraman6970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-11, 09:16 AM   #8
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 28,920
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 96 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
If you buy Jag cables they offer both Campy and Shimano ends, designated with a C or S molded in respectively. Also Sram uses the campy size head as does some of the newer Dura Ace stuff so the right size head is much more common than it used to be.
Now that is useful info. I didn't realize SRAM used the Campy end fitting and certainly didn't expect Shimano to use it for anything.
HillRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-11, 09:22 AM   #9
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 30,017
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
Now that is useful info. I didn't realize SRAM used the Campy end fitting and certainly didn't expect Shimano to use it for anything.
I'm sure neither thinks of it as the "Campagnolo" size head. Years ago when I distributed Jag, I was the only customer in the USA to request the smaller head, and it was fortunate that JagWire already had the mold and by coincidence it had a "C" in it. The C didn't stand for Campy, it was the initial of of JagWire's makers name.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:24 AM.