efiniluvr

Hi everyone,

I am in the midst of overhauling the headset on my Cannondale CAAD5 that I purchased on eBay. It still has the original 1 1/8" integrated Campagnolo Record Hiddenset installed. I was wondering if I wanted to replace it with something more up to date, what can I replace it with? Would any of the so called integrated headset work as long as the dimensions match?? Or do I need to look at the internal headset??

Here is the description from BikePedia: Cannondale CAAD5 R3000Si

Here is a pic of my headset (disregard the protruding compression plug):

FBinNY 

There are a number of makers that make headsets conforming to the Campy integrated dimensions. Just make sure that that's he standard you're buying because there are others, the difference being in the inner shape of the frames headtube.

jimc101

What's the matter with the current one?

For integrated headsets, there are so many different standards around https://bicycleheadsets.com/, you would probably be best to replace with a new one of the current headset installed https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/gro...id_catid_4.jsp

HillRider

Nice picture of your stem's handlebar clamp but not much detail about your headset.

As noted, Campy bearings have a specific shape and replacement bearings must conform to those specifications.

Zef

Not sure why you would want to replace your record headset. It is of current design for integrated headsets. The bearing seats are 45degrees which is what the current standard is for integrated/hiddenset design. Unless you have pitting you should be able to overhaul by replacing the balls. The campagnolo hiddenset design does not use a sealed cartridge. It uses 1/8th inch steel balls in a cage type retainer. If you are careful you can pop the balls out and replace with new ones or you can carefully pack new loose balls into fresh grease.
-j

ultraman6970

Headsets are standard, is not just go and change it for something else, if you buy a new headset with campagnolo specs it will look exactly as the one u have in there but the parts will have another brand, besides that is the same headset. There is nothing more updated, it is what it is.

If nothing is wrong with it, dont see why u want to fix it. Headsets can overlast frames life time and usually they do.

ps: april's fools question?

AndyK 

Take it apart and clean/re-grease. Put it back in and enjoy it for the next 10 years! Cost=zero. Campy Record hiddensets rule!

efiniluvr

Thanks for all the replies, I guess what I was trying to get at was, I wanted to replace the headset with something that has a conical "cap" that would eliminate the use of spacers, but wasn't sure if I can simply use another HS other than the Campy one. The currently is fine, so yes a simple clean and re-grease would suffice I suppose. The new campy hiddenset that is has the taller top cap is ~$92 on Amazon: Campagnolo Record Hiddenset ouch!!! I wanted to see if there were cheaper alternatives. It's good to know that the campy HS would last though.

-Jeff

AndyK 

I've seen just the taller caps for sale on eBay. Maybe you can score one, and just replace your cap?

ultraman6970

As any says, just replace the cap.

Zef

The tall top cap design of the campy hiddenset is not new. It has been around for a few years now. $92 for the record hiddenset is cheap for a part that normally draws a price of around $120+. Once in awhile you can find them for much less on ebay but its a shot in the dark.

I did some searching for you and could not find a campy record or chorus conical top cap but here are a couple of ebay links to another brand that are designed for 1-1/8" headsets...perhaps they might work with the campy hiddenset too...the auction states they are perfect for integrated headsets.

The first is for a 20mm tall one ($3.93+shipping):
https://cgi.ebay.com/CyclePro-20mm-1-...item56410e69f8

The second is for a 15mm tall one ($6.93+shipping):
https://cgi.ebay.com/CyclePro-15mm-1-...item336252b6b7

Looks like a good deal.

I believe chainreactioncycles.com has some Ritchey ones that measure 15mm and 25mm high.

Good luck.

-j

operator

I hope the OP realizes that he'll need a 3mm or 5mm on top of the stem. Regardless of whether he can obtain the top bearing cover with the exact dimensions needed to 'replace' all the spacers underneath the stem.

Think spacers look dumb? Think how dumb your face would look when your steerer breaks.

ichiroku

efiniluvr, i'm having the same bad luck with these responses. I have a Campagnolo Record hiddenset headset with a tall cap. I happen to be looking for a short one. I don't know if you gave up years ago with this thread and your project, but if you still miraculously need a switch, PM me!