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Old 04-15-11, 05:49 PM   #1
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Wood wheels, build, make, own or have you tried.

When I was young the coolest bikes rolled tubulars. Now this retro push for super high end wood rims. I've seen the pics on the web, but just wondered if someone has tried to build up a set with purchased rims. How about the super shop guys, the guys that can build a frame from scratch. Has anyone heard of someone who made a set at home. I look at the adds and pictures and see a piece of wood for 200.$ Think I could roll strips of Bass wood on a 24" rim with glue and sand it to shape. How about the lucky person who rides these wonders of yore, tell us how they ride. Do they reduce vibration? Are they aero? In all seriousness, I wan't a pair. I'm just cheap. I would love to be a cheap bike snob on a set of wood rims.
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Old 04-15-11, 06:08 PM   #2
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you could probably make some using plywood. i don't know if you could buy them.

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You should visit a real woodworker shop sometimes. There's a fellow in the town north of me that has a "green"/electric bike shop, but behind it is his woodshop. I've talked to him on a few different occasions about woodworking.....namely wooden fenders. If the guys making and selling them on the market can do it, anyone with knowledge of wood and how to work it could, too......with the right tools. IOW's, if you really wanted to do it, a good woodworker could help you figure it out. That is in lieu of talking to the companies making them. But, man...from what I understand, unless you really wanna do it, it's a lot of time and work.
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I swear I heard somewhere that wooden rims were prone to explosions. I suppose like some carbon rims in that regard.
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Not just for tubulars anymore.
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you could probably make some using plywood. i don't know if you could buy them.
I found that pic and could not believe my eyes, the time and trouble to FLINSTONEIT. I was thinking of using a table saw to cut 1/8" strips, 6' or 8' long and taper or scarf the first end. Then rap it around a 24" sleel rim with glue, and butt joint each piece untill I have 6 layers or 1 1/2" thicknes. Spin the wheel with a belt sander untill the outside is round and then add a half moon groove for the tubular. Haven't figured out how to do the inside of the rim, hoping for an aero shape. Can't afford 50mm cabon so make 50mm basswood, and if I paint them black with outrageous stickers no one will know.
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I see him all over the place, he has to much money and passion. I always wonder how much he sold his company for. He charges 100$ just to build one wheel, and I can do that with less equipment in half an hour. He doesn't even make the rim, he has exclusive rights to be the distributer for the USA. He orders a box or quantity and then sells them built in pairs. 185$ per rim 100$ labor 50$ each hub and he gives you the spokes thats 670$ and you have 105 or cheaper hubs. For that price I could score some carbon wheels. He also has another company called MAD (something I forgot). FIBER thats it.
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When I was young the coolest bikes rolled tubulars. Now this retro push for super high end wood rims. I've seen the pics on the web, but just wondered if someone has tried to build up a set with purchased rims. How about the super shop guys, the guys that can build a frame from scratch. Has anyone heard of someone who made a set at home. I look at the adds and pictures and see a piece of wood for 200.$ Think I could roll strips of Bass wood on a 24" rim with glue and sand it to shape. How about the lucky person who rides these wonders of yore, tell us how they ride. Do they reduce vibration? Are they aero? In all seriousness, I wan't a pair. I'm just cheap. I would love to be a cheap bike snob on a set of wood rims.
Here's a youtube video from Cerchio Ghisallo (part 1 of 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hjCwav452s

Apart from the hot water tank, metal forms, drying kiln, and some custom shaper knives making wooden rims doesn't seem to require anything not found in your typical wood shop.
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These are for people with more money than sense.
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If you get a splinter in your finger from the wooden rims, soak the finger in ice water and dish washing soap.
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Here's a youtube video from Cerchio Ghisallo (part 1 of 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hjCwav452s

Apart from the hot water tank, metal forms, drying kiln, and some custom shaper knives making wooden rims doesn't seem to require anything not found in your typical wood shop.
I have watched that clip about 10 times, looks like it was filmed in the 80's. I've come up with ideas to replicate some of the equipment except the routering table for the inside. I'm not sure how to make a guide to follow the router bit or if a bearing would leave you with a round or even rim.
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That's along the lines of what I was trying to say. Talk to a woodworker, ya know? Might be able to give you ideas you hadn't thought of for dealing with those kind of issues. Hell.......might even already have a tool/machine for it. Or, could rig up something....just whatever. It be real interesting to see a regular joe (or, Alan, as it were) be able to make some that actually worked.
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Your love of Italian handmade stuff is incompatible, in this case, with your desire to be cheap - that is, they are mutually exclusive.

I purchased and built up a pair of Ghisallo wood rims and have been riding them since Sept. They do seem to dampen road vibration. That is the quality I was looking for as I was getting numbness in my hands on long rides. Aesthetically, they are the most beautiful and attention-getting thing you can have on your bike. I don't think they would go too well with any bike other than a classic-style lugged frame. I very much appreciate the quality of the ride and the aesthetics. Here's an article and photo of my bike on the dealer's blog: http://wheelfanatyk.blogspot.com/201...-with-old.html

You would not be able to approximate these rims with even the best wood worker you could find. The machines they use to form/shape the rims and drill the holes for the spokes would not be something you could get close to doing without spending a lot of money and time. This is an artisan product of a family in Italy producing them over various generations. They are not particularly aero, nor lightweight compared to modern rims. If you are looking for those qualities, you need to look to other rim materials.
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