Upgrade path for old 8 speed Bianchi Veloce
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Upgrade path for old 8 speed Bianchi Veloce
i have an unknown vintage ( i think 96-97) Bianchi veloce that its time to upgrade or replace. it currently has a full campy veloce group.
the desired outcome is to lower the gearing and replace the worn cassette, chain and chainrings. given how obsolete the components are, it appears that i will need to replace almost everything.
can anyone point me to any resources that can help me determine what my upgrade options are?
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the desired outcome is to lower the gearing and replace the worn cassette, chain and chainrings. given how obsolete the components are, it appears that i will need to replace almost everything.
can anyone point me to any resources that can help me determine what my upgrade options are?
Thanks!
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8 speed stuff is still available so replacing the worn chainrings, cassette and chain would probably be the most cost effective way to go. Depending on what you currently have, you can make some changes in ratios at the same time.
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I would consider changing your 53 & 39t Standard Crankset for a 48 & 34t Compact: https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...-crankset.html
You could also replace your existing 12-23 cassette with an 13-26 model: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#campagnolo
You could also replace your existing 12-23 cassette with an 13-26 model: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#campagnolo
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I'd say find some old 8 speed stuff if you can. Or just ditch Campy completely so you won't have to replace EVERYTHING once the old stuff becomes obsolete and impossible to find.
It's my understanding that if you're going from 8 speed to 10 or 11 speed you will have to replace: shifters, derailers, rear wheel, cassette, chain, crankset.... At this point you could probably buy a couple new bikes for the cost of a new Campy group.
It's my understanding that if you're going from 8 speed to 10 or 11 speed you will have to replace: shifters, derailers, rear wheel, cassette, chain, crankset.... At this point you could probably buy a couple new bikes for the cost of a new Campy group.
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Pick up a Campag race triple, they still use a square taper,
BB: 111 symmetrical [115 if fat seat tube on frame]
2 models 52, 42 or 50,40 for the outer 135 bcd.
3rd ring is a 74 bcd . so stock is usually a 32 or 30,
I fit a 26 on my 52, a 24 on the 50.. half the size of the big ring ..
I'm just a tourist rider..
You need a longer arm RD, to wrap up the slack chain,
the parts for that longer arm may be retrofitted to your existing derailleur,
I got a short cage RD from their MTB era, bought the long cage bits
NB, it was 20 years ago.. Campag is rebuild-able, they sell the small parts.
somewhere .. Ask Dealers of pro level bikes..
the rest is just a clean and lube maintainence ..
Campag makes a freehub driver for their hubs, to adopt shimano cassettes,
consider that. its a C note at Cambria bike..
BB: 111 symmetrical [115 if fat seat tube on frame]
2 models 52, 42 or 50,40 for the outer 135 bcd.
3rd ring is a 74 bcd . so stock is usually a 32 or 30,
I fit a 26 on my 52, a 24 on the 50.. half the size of the big ring ..
I'm just a tourist rider..
You need a longer arm RD, to wrap up the slack chain,
the parts for that longer arm may be retrofitted to your existing derailleur,
I got a short cage RD from their MTB era, bought the long cage bits
NB, it was 20 years ago.. Campag is rebuild-able, they sell the small parts.
somewhere .. Ask Dealers of pro level bikes..
the rest is just a clean and lube maintainence ..
Campag makes a freehub driver for their hubs, to adopt shimano cassettes,
consider that. its a C note at Cambria bike..
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lots of good ideas, thanks guys. i assume if i changed to a triple i would need a new front ergo lever as well.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
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That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
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That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
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lots of good ideas, thanks guys. i assume if i changed to a triple i would need a new front ergo lever as well.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
Getting a new bike has merit. Consider: https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...our_legacy.htm
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I happened to stumble across your post, and i happen to have a bianchi veloce, probably around the same time as yours. this is a bit off topic, but i sort of broke my rear derailleur... if you happen to replace yours, i'll happily take your old one off your hands.
Anyways, good luck with the upgrade!
Anyways, good luck with the upgrade!
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lots of good ideas, thanks guys. i assume if i changed to a triple i would need a new front ergo lever as well.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
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That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
edit
That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
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First and second generation left levers have 12 clicks of which 7 are used for triple front derailleurs and 3 or 4 for a double.
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You need a longer arm RD, to wrap up the slack chain,
the parts for that longer arm may be retrofitted to your existing derailleur,
I got a short cage RD from their MTB era, bought the long cage bits
NB, it was 20 years ago.. Campag is rebuild-able, they sell the small parts.
You need a longer arm RD, to wrap up the slack chain,
the parts for that longer arm may be retrofitted to your existing derailleur,
I got a short cage RD from their MTB era, bought the long cage bits
NB, it was 20 years ago.. Campag is rebuild-able, they sell the small parts.
Campag makes a freehub driver for their hubs, to adopt shimano cassettes,
consider that. its a C note at Cambria bike..
consider that. its a C note at Cambria bike..
The steel axle is about 1/3 smaller and the pawl end is different.
Retrofiting a 1997-1998 Chorus/Record 9 speed freehub or 1998-1999 Athena/Veloce freehub is possible (but might take the correct axle plus an additional drive side spacer) although the supply of new parts dried up a decade ago. I did that when Campagnolo discontinued my favorite 8 speed cassette. The 2000 and newer Veloce freehubs share the same pawl mechanism but mate to an over-sized steel axle; you might be able to move your freehub bearings to that and use one.
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lots of good ideas, thanks guys. i assume if i changed to a triple i would need a new front ergo lever as well.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
edit
That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
i like the idea of that sugino crank-i assume i will have to get a shimano BB to match the taper.
the deeper i get into this the more i am inclined to just buy a new bike.
edit
That velo orange site has some great stuff, they may have pulled me back from the brink of new bikedom.
Then I'd sell the old stuff on ebay to help defray the cost. Go to Ribble and get a new Veloce groupset https://ribblecycles.co.uk/ Remember to convert to dollars. At current exchange rates Veloce is about $530 US. Good luck.
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