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    Trek 820 Antelope Worth Fixing?

    Hello all,

    As I am getting back into the cycling thing, I pulled out a Trek 820 I had sitting behind the shed for about 2 years. It is going to need one 26x1.75 tire, the front one I replaced and is relatively new, seat, chain, and the grips are shot. Also the cables are going to need some lubrication.

    I bought this Trek at a yard sale for $40 about 5 years ago and the guy gave me a trainer and slick tire with it so I can ride indoors in the winter. I never used the trainer. One day I was cleaning out the shed, moved it around back with a couple other bikes and forgot about them. I have a BMW road bike and my wife has a Magna mountain bike that are like new and those are the bikes we ride all the time. She doesn't want me to beat on her bike (Magna) by using it on trails.

    My question is should I try to fix the Trek back up or should I give it to some kid who can tinker and buy another used bike in better condition. I hate to waste stuff and it was a good bike before I forgot about it. I figured I can spend about $50 in parts and put it together myself.

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    That fork is toast. If it wasn't that bike would be 100x better than the Magna!
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    Major rust.
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    I really enjoy my 820 and I think they are great bikes. From the looks of the attached pic I think it would take a lot more than $50 to get it to a great bike level again. Good luck!
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    Wow I didn't realize the fork turned into something from a chopper. This is why I posted the picture. After searching craigslist I found a specialized for $100 and another 820 for $100. Both are in much better shape. I am going to give this to a guy I know who said he wants it to use for a frankenbike Project
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    You paid $40 for that?
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    Senior Member JT Burkard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
    You paid $40 for that?
    No I paid $40 5 years ago when it was still in decent shape. Like a fool I left it behind the shed for 2 years and it got ruined. At least I still have the trainer which is in nearly new condition.
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    OT, but why does my 820 look so much different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sknhgy View Post
    OT, but why does my 820 look so much different?
    Yours is much newer. Maybe 2001-2004 judging by the decals? The OP's 820 is firmly in the early-mid 1990s.
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    Some Trek models vary WIDELY from year to year.

    Olde 720:



    Not quite as olde 720:

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    I don't understand how leaving the bike outside would have severely bent that front fork.

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    275 lb neighbor "borrowed" it for a late night drunken dirt jump session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    Some Trek models vary WIDELY from year to year.

    Olde 720:



    Not quite as olde 720:

    An "olde 720" is high on my "Bicycle Bucket List." Just this last week, yet another "new 720" was for sale on Craigslist in my area (Okla. City), but it is just not the same bike. Seems hard to find an older 720 in my area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    275 lb neighbor "borrowed" it for a late night drunken dirt jump session.
    More like my 260lb arse jumping off levys and jumps.
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    So I researched the other two bikes as well as a few others on CL. Most were in need of help for $100 or sold already. Being in the classic car business and have restored many cars/motorcycles in the past, I decided to take another look at this 820. Yes, I know its been sitting outside for a few years and has some issues like the fork but I had to fiddle anyway.

    I got it out of the shed and really gave it a look. The chain was rusty and kinked. I grabbed some good old WD40, I know, not proper chain lube but it worked, flipped the bike upside down and dowsed it with oil. I had to work the chain around a few times because the kinks were getting hung up in the rear derailer. After a few times around, and more WD40, the chain loosened up and went around fine.

    Next was to check the shifting and make sure the cables weren't frozen. The rear shifted perfect. The front is getting onto the largest chain ring but as soon as I let go of the lever, it brings the chain back to the middle chain ring. I think the derailer needs adjusting. The brakes still worked and everything seemed it still be in working shape more or less.

    So I am thinking this is what I can do to fix up the bike:

    1. Rear tire is shot (found tires for under $20 + tube). The front I replaced a few years ago and that one is fine still.
    2. The seat is shot so I will need a new one (I found many for $30).
    3. The grips are toast as well but those are cheap (under $10 for cheap pair) and easy to replace.
    4. The most important thing is the front fork is bent. I went on eBay and noticed stock style forks are around $25-30 used and $50+ new. I also found a ton of Rock Shox suspension forks for about the same price range on eBay. They are older but so is the bike. I am thinking if I have to change out the fork, I might as well get some suspension action if they are around the same price. I just don't know what size the steerer tube is or if its threaded or threadless.

    So now should I spend $130 (give or take a few $) on this thing or what? My wife says "use that other mountain bike (Magna) there is nothing wrong with it." - She's right, with that. I've owned that bike for 10 years and I have no real issues with it except the shifting stinks. I actually just used it off road on Monday. When I compare that bike with my BMW bike, well, its like driving a Daewoo to a BMW car. Yes it rides ok and it gets you to where you want to but but the quality is not as good and riding it is not as nice as the better bike. Since Trek is a good brand, it might we worth looking into the repairs.

    Another thought - I can just get it rideable with new grips, seat, and tire from Wally World just to be on the cheap side and deal with the fork later.

    I am confused and conflicted
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    There is this that needs shifting help $95. Worth a test ride:
    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2439599364.html

    Then this one looks like showroom condition for $125
    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2439599364.html

    Both are similar to the 820. If you keep your eyes peeled and haggle right you should be able to snag something like those for $75.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
    There is this that looks good for $95. Worth a test ride:
    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2439599364.html

    Then this one looks like showroom condition for $125
    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2439599364.html

    Both are similar to the 820. If you keep your eyes peeled and haggle right you should be able to snag something like those for $75.
    Thanks for the link but both are the same bike and it needs gears. If I am going to replace the bike entirely, I will just buy something that doesn't need anything except maybe a tune up. That of course is my other plan but I like to save things. It's kind of my thing. I also have an old Banana seat bike from the 70's I am rebuilding (well, I took it apart and bought parts for it and stopped) so I like to tinker.

    The guy I was original going to give this 820 to wound up with my Specialized HotRocks (also left outside with this one) so he can fix the bent derailer and give it to his kid.

    Overall, would it make sense to fix the bike or not?
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    Trek 800 series are great bikes

    My wife rides a late 1990s vintage Trek 820 Mountain Trail and I have an early 1990s 830 Antelope. Both are great bikes, a little heavy, but tough as heck and easy to find parts for. I've got another 800 frame and some parts waiting to become my winter project once the snow flies.

    Looking at this bike, it is going to take more $$$ to fix it up than it will ever be worth. Unless you are attached to this bike or really into restoration, it would be a better bet to find another used Trek in better condition to start with. Your derailleurs and cables are probably shot, as may be your shifters and possibly even brakes. The crank and chain rings might be salvageable, but its just a Biopace set, so why? My fear is that with all that external rust, you probably have bad internal rust as well which means stripping the frame completely down, removing all the paint and rust inside and out, priming with a rust converting primer inside and out and repainting. That alone could cost you well over $100 unless you can do it all yourself. Then you will need a whole new bottom bracket and head bearings, so another $50 - $80 before you can even start the build. As much as I love old Treks, I'm afraid this one has had it. Save the parts you can, maybe even the frame, but I think it is going to take quite a bit to put it into good riding shape.
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    You are probably right. I guess I just thought I can save it but when I look at this:

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2437593094.html

    I realize I will have $50 or less into mine then what this guy is asking and mine will still be more beat up.

    Or even better http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2428756028.html - This might be something I should look into.

    I think I knew all along it wasn't worth the $$ but I needed to hear it from someone else.
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    Ooops, this was the like-new one I meant to post.

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/2440754648.html
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    Man they must love their olde MTBs in Jersey. Seems like all of these are priced 50-100 too high for my market.
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    If it just needed a fork, or it just needed a saddle, I'd say it's worth fixing up. But I agree, that bike will need a lot more than what it will ever be worth. Strip for parts, then find a good deal on a similar MTB in better shape. Around here one can be had for $75, or much less if you get lucky at a rummage sale.
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    Not sure why our prices are different then the rest of yours. I haven't really looked elsewhere so I never noticed. My guess is that were near the shore and lots of people ride to the beach. I contacted the guy with the Hardrock and see if we can make a deal. He is also the same guy selling that mongoose so I can check both out at the same time.
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    Local prices

    I know the prices for used bikes vary from market to market, but I bought both of our Treks for less than $100. The 820 Mountain trail is pristine with Altus components and needed no work, the 830 Antelope is has lower end Shimano components and needed a new bottom bracket ($45 for Shimano sealed BB installed at LBS) and was well used but otherwise in good riding condition.

    Even at those asking prices, you would be money ahead with any of those three bikes compared to putting big $$$ into restoring the one you have. I still think you should be able to talk the price down unless the market for used bikes around there is really hot.
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    Well I am the proud new owner of the white Specialized Hardrock. The guy apparently does bikes for a business/side business and had roughly 70 bikes in his yard in sheds, under covers, etc. All the cheap walmart stuff he dumps at the local flea markets and keeps the better stuff to sell on the Internet. He also had some really nice stuff like Cannondales, newer Specialized, and road bikes in the basement with a full workshop equipped with tires, tubes, parts, etc. This guy was no joke. When its time for another bike perhaps with front and rear suspension I'll contact him first. Here is a link to a bunch he has for sale or had for sale:

    http://s866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/mariosbikes/

    The bike I rode shifted perfect, the tires were brand new with the tubes, the chain was lubed properly and it looked like he already did a tune up. I walked away with it for $125. I think it was a fair deal for its condition and all the stuff he did to it. Plus its a 21" frame which fit me perfect. I also offered the Trek to him if he could use it for anything. He declined.

    Thanks for all the help. I'll post pictures when the sun is up.
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