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    Campagnolo Cassette lock ring

    Are the lock rings interchangable from Campagnolo cassettes? Going from a 14 small to a 12 and cant find my other lockring.
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    I think they're the same, except if you have an 11 it's different ...... (not 100% sure)
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    Threads are the same, size is different if you have 11, but and 11 should fit in a 14T last cog tho. If you are talking about a previous generation 9/8 speed non oversize hub lockring, then it might not fit in a modern oversize type of freewheel because the diameter of the threads is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Threads are the same, size is different if you have 11, but and 11 should fit in a 14T last cog tho. If you are talking about a previous generation 9/8 speed non oversize hub lockring, then it might not fit in a modern oversize type of freewheel because the diameter of the threads is different.
    There are three different thread sizes.

    29mm - 8 speed
    26mm - 9 speed 1997-1999 except 1999 Chorus/Record rear hubs with oversized axles
    27mm - other 9/10 speed

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    Instead of starting a new thread, hope you don't mind me asking a question of my own concern. I sent a wheel in for repair and I foolishly left the lockring on the hub. Now it's missing and I have to purchase a new one. The one that I need is Campy CS-112 for 11-speed, 12-27, 12T type, quite expensive, about $50. (not the same as 11-23 11-speed) Saw Token Lockring on Ebay for about $10. Anyone with experience of using a generic lockring in place of CS-112? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdiablo View Post
    I sent a wheel in for repair and I foolishly left the lockring on the hub. Now it's missing and I have to purchase a new one.
    Why not contact whoever repaired your wheel and have them return your original lockring?

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    That would be a perfect solution but I think they probably did not notice it being attached to the old hub and threw the whole thing out. I was just too stupid to have left the lockring on the hub. And through my searches on the net, I think I have to get the original CS-112 as there is no copycat replacement. CS-401 has has 27mm thread but obviously can't be the same as CS-112.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdiablo View Post
    That would be a perfect solution but I think they probably did not notice it being attached to the old hub and threw the whole thing out. I was just too stupid to have left the lockring on the hub. And through my searches on the net, I think I have to get the original CS-112 as there is no copycat replacement. CS-401 has has 27mm thread but obviously can't be the same as CS-112.
    Doesn't a cassette come with a lockring? You'll need one eventually, anyway, so maybe it makes sense to spend about $130 for a new cassette instead of $50 for just a lockring.

    Maybe someone else with 11 speed will have their old lockring if they've already bought a new cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
    Doesn't a cassette come with a lockring?
    Shimano cassettes all come with the matching lockring. Campy cassettes, except those with an 11T smallest cog, do not. Campy provides the lockring with their hubs and expects you to reuse it.
    ....but I think they probably did not notice it being attached to the old hub and threw the whole thing out...
    Considering the cost of Campy lockrings, I'd be very surprised if they didn't keep it. Certainly worth a phone call or e-mail to find out.

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    I did not feel the pain when my wife lost a much more expensive diamond "ring," but somehow I feel more pain (maybe frustration is a better word) losing the $50 lock"ring." I guess diamond ring just can't lock a cassette.

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    Who's spending $50 on a lock ring?

    The Campy part is $35: http://aebike.com/product/campagnolo...w9911-qc30.htm

    And Miche makes one for $10: http://aebike.com/product/miche-camp...w1775-qc30.htm
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    Thanks for looking up the parts, Grasshopper. The parts you listed are most likely CS-410 which is not identical to CS-112, although both are 27 mm theads. The cheapest CS-112 is over $40 and most of them are closer to $50 than $40. You would think it's made of platinum.

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    Ok what is CS-410? Is it alloy or Ti? Record level I'm guessing. You save like 10g...maybe? Honestly I don't see them listed anywhere...where are you finding them?
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    Sorry, typo, it's CS-401. I don't really know the difference between CS-112 and CS-401 other than perhaps the weight with CS-112 being alloy and lighter. I do know CS-112 is specific for 11-speed with 12 teeth or more and I do not see any mention of CS-401 being compatible with 11-speed. CS-401 maybe a little too thick for 11-speed? The component I have is Chorus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdiablo View Post
    Sorry, typo, it's CS-401. I don't really know the difference between CS-112 and CS-401 other than perhaps the weight with CS-112 being alloy and lighter. I do know CS-112 is specific for 11-speed with 12 teeth or more and I do not see any mention of CS-401 being compatible with 11-speed. CS-401 maybe a little too thick for 11-speed? The component I have is Chorus.
    Oh right the 11 speed lock ring is different...I thought we were talking 10 speed here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    Shimano cassettes all come with the matching lockring. Campy cassettes, except those with an 11T smallest cog, do not. Campy provides the lockring with their hubs and expects you to reuse it.
    That conflicts with my experience and with the current Campagnolo catalogue - all the cassettes specify that they come with lockrings and that's the way I've received all three of mine. Perhaps they changed their position on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    That conflicts with my experience and with the current Campagnolo catalogue - all the cassettes specify that they come with lockrings and that's the way I've received all three of mine. Perhaps they changed their position on this?
    Hmmm, if your cassettes weren't all 11T small cogs and did come with lockrings, that would be a change in Campy's way of doing things. When I bought my '06 Chorus group, the hub included the lockring and the cassette (13x29) did not and subsequent similar cassettes I've purchased haven't either.

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    I'm too old and too slow to need an 11t cog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    I'm too old and too slow to need an 11t cog.
    Me too, therefore my experience with 13x29 cassettes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    Hmmm, if your cassettes weren't all 11T small cogs and did come with lockrings, that would be a change in Campy's way of doing things. When I bought my '06 Chorus group, the hub included the lockring and the cassette (13x29) did not and subsequent similar cassettes I've purchased haven't either.
    Yea Campy changed their policy on lock rings a couple of years ago when 11 speed came out. They started including lock rings with all of the 10 speed cassettes (don't know about the 11 speed as I don't run it on any of my bikes).
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    The lockring did come with the 11-speed 12x27 cassette. The problem is that I lost it afterwards, by mailing out the the wheel and the hub with lockring attached for repair.

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    I don't want to start a new thread but I have a couple of sets of Zonda wheels and the lockring that came with a new cassette is not the right size---the diameter on the threaded part of these Zondas is wider. Which lockring do I need to buy?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
    I don't want to start a new thread but I have a couple of sets of Zonda wheels and the lockring that came with a new cassette is not the right size---the diameter on the threaded part of these Zondas is wider. Which lockring do I need to buy?
    Do you have a steel freehub? Your new 9/10 speed cassette isn't going to fit the 8 speed splines. With an 8 speed cassette you'll need a 29x1mm lock ring part CS-101 (discontinued) for 11T starting cogs and CS-001 otherwise.

    With an aluminum freehub you need a 27x1mm lock ring part CS-501 for 11T starting cogs and CS-401 otherwise.

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    Hrm, I am not 100% sure but I believe they are aluminium bodies on both. These are not old deep-v style Zondas, they are the new black ones and the cassettes are 9-speeds.

    Thanks for the info!

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