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Old 11-15-04, 07:17 AM   #1
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About how many miles do road tires last?

I'm looking ahead to getting road tires with reflective strips built in. They are not stocked by LBS so I have to preorder them. I don't want to order too soon and I just returned to riding. Maybe 50 miles so far is all.

I only ride on road/concrete bike path surfaces. I do have a cyclometer. So, roughly how long do road tires last in miles? I expect to put on 20-60 miles per week. Stock tires are Michelins.

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I would stay with Mich. I have them on most of my bikes. The tour and race tires are superb in my opinion. I would not replace good tires to get a reflective strip but you can send the old ones to me when you take them off. ;**
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Old 11-15-04, 08:29 AM   #3
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It really depends what sort of riding you're doing. Having suffered a lot of punctures last year I bought myself some Specialized Aramadillos this year for the winter bike and Continental GP3000s for the summer bike. I am doing around 500 to 600 miles per month, roughly split between the two bikes, and so far have only suffered one puncture since replacing the tyres in, I think, March or April. Neither tyres are showing any great visible signs of wear, so I think it likely they will do a couple of years, which is not a bad mileage. I also bought a track pump this year, which means I can now get them up to their recommended pressure of 120 p.s.i., and I think this is helping. My previous experience would suggest that tyres start to puncture on a regular basis before the tread looks totally worn out, but this may not be the general trend.

I would certainly endorse going for the best tyre for your conditions rather than choosing one for its reflective properties. You can put reflectors anywhere on a bike. Speaking as a driver I think the best place for reflectors is around the ankles or on the pedals/shoes, as seeing those legs pumping up and down is the best indication that you are approaching a cyclist.
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I would stay with Mich. I have them on most of my bikes. The tour and race tires are superb in my opinion. I would not replace good tires to get a reflective strip but you can send the old ones to me when you take them off. ;**
You missed the point. After the original tires wear out. Michelin makes road tires with reflective strip.
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Speaking as a driver I think the best place for reflectors is around the ankles or on the pedals/shoes, as seeing those legs pumping up and down is the best indication that you are approaching a cyclist.
This seems to be common sense, but does not seem to be supported by accident data. Strange. I think it is because most accidents are side hits or front hits where pedal motion is not as visible.
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However small any reduction in risk is, as long as it doesn't have any significant drawback, why not do it?
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Old 11-15-04, 09:45 AM   #7
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jgwilliams:

" . . . 500 to 600 miles per month . . ."

Are you a normal human being or are you just visiting us!
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Why?! . . . that's too much distance buddy.

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[QUOTE=jgwilliams]It really depends what sort of riding you're doing. Having suffered a lot of punctures last year I bought myself some Specialized Aramadillos this year for the winter bike and Continental GP3000s for the summer bike. I am doing around 500 to 600 miles per month, roughly split between the two bikes, and so far have only suffered one puncture since

I also use the Spec.Aramadillos on my 5th set. I get about 3000 before I change, don't like to run on just the Kevlar belt. I use 700 23c, and have had three flats in all that time. I do about 300 a week in the summer and late spring and early fall, but now will probably switch to the MtBike, which I also have the Kevlar belted Specialized tires. Keep peddlin
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I know right!......wow,500~600 miles in a month>he's definately an addict for the endorphin rush{lol**....me too,but not that much distance in a month though< sincerely no disrespect! I just recently switched to Panaracer 1.5 HighRoad slick's on my mountain bike bec/i find myself to frequent the road/side walk's more than the trails and have'nt experienced flat's as much either.I would guess that i should get around 1000~1500 miles bef/replacement and i would like to also mention that Panaracer make's some darn good tire's aswell.....too me,they're the best! David

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"I also bought a track pump this year, which means I can now get them up to their recommended pressure of 120 p.s.i., "

This is a key point. Proper inflation (daily) is more important that tire manufacturer.
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Old 11-15-04, 11:42 AM   #11
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I have on my Masi road bike Michelin Erilium tyres, 700X23. Tyre has kevlar belt, makes good protection from glass, junk on road. I use them now three changes. Best was 8 000km. (5 000mile)

I recommend this: When they are 4 000km, (circa 2 500miles) u will see how more wear is to rear tyre than front, so put front tyre on rear wheel, & vis-a-vis. This will add for u 1 000miles to use, easy.
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Great advice. Here's the one I am looking at.
http://cycleus.webmichelin.com/tires/transworldcity.htm

With your guidelines, I'll probably have to replace tires in March/Apr 05.
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I have those exact tires (26 x 1.75) on one of my commuters.
I like them and recommended them to a friend. He hated them because he felt they were too 'sticky' and ended up buying slicks.
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I recommend this: When they are 4 000km, (circa 2 500miles) u will see how more wear is to rear tyre than front, so put front tyre on rear wheel, & vis-a-vis. This will add for u 1 000miles to use, easy.
I'd recommend against doing this. As a bicycle tire wears it's likelihood of picking up a flat increases. I'd much prefer that I had the best tire on the front, not one that was almost worn out.

My usual rotation is to run a set of tires until the rear tire is worn out. This is either when the threads show through or are about to show, or when it's starting to look worn and is picking up more than the usual number of flats. I then put the front tire on the rear, and a new tire on the front.

On my roadie (700x23 Michelin Carbons) or my commuter (700x28 Specialized Armadillos), a brand new tire on the rear usually gets me about 1500-2000 miles. A 'front' tire on the rear gets a few hundred miles less. I'm 6', about 220 lbs.
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I agree with Stubacca on this.
Always keep the good rubber up front.
A rear blowout can be managed but a front will probably cause a crash.
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" . . . 500 to 600 miles per month . . ."

Are you a normal human being or are you just visiting us!
It's surprisingly easy! My commute to work is 22 miles, so that's 44 miles per day. Generally speaking I work one day per week at home, so that's 176 miles per week. So I have the potential to do 800 miles in a month without any riding at weekends. My wife isn't quite as mad as me, and my daughter is only 3, so our weekend rides tend to be about 12 to 24 miles in total, and not that often, and in winter I tend to reduce the number of days I cycle to work, letting the train take the strain, hence the quoted mileage above. It's actually about the same as we do in our car, as a rule!

In my defence, the ride to work is pretty flat, since it more or less follows the path of the Thames in to London. There is one mild hill and one sharp one. The case for the prosecution would point out that anyone who rides a bicycle in central London is a few spokes short of a wheel.

I only started doing these big distances last year at the age of 46, so I hope that is some encouragement to you oldies out there. I've just passed my 48th birthday, and I reckon I'm as fit now as I was at 28!

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I don't see this as a big issue. Generally, tires wear pretty slowly, so unless you get a tire blowout from a large piece of glass, you should have plenty of lead time to order new tires. How long does it take the LBS to get the tires in stock? I would hope no more than two weeks.

Tires vary significantly on how many miles you can get. Rear tires wear much faster than front. Generally I would expect to get no less than a couple thousand miles out of an average set of tires.

One strategy you might consider is to wait until you wear out your current rear tire. Then, place the order for the tires you want with your LBS. At the same time purchase a single cheap tire to use until your new tires arrive. Keep the cheap tire as a backup in case you damage a good tire.
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jgwilliams

We're not worthy . . . you are a hero.

I hope you're geared up safely and continue to give those tires as many miles as you can.

Best wishes.
PS: We're the same age . . . but my wheels are way too spoilt with my 10 miles return commute.

PPS: Aren't there any manufacturer's data on tire vs mileage?! - Interesting topic.
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I've got 3770 on my michelin carbons right now...no flats! best tires I've ever had. I rotated at 1500 miles.
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"I only started doing these big distances last year at the age of 46, so I hope that is some encouragement to you oldies out there. I've just passed my 48th birthday, and I reckon I'm as fit now as I was at 28!"
I turned fifty in June, started riding in July and have been doing 350-400 miles per week and I can't commute by bike. Even normal people can get in some miles, though short days increase the challenge! Oh, yeah, this is about tires. When your tires wear out, buy new ones and by all means, go reflective. And enjoy.
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Well whatever you do don't buy Kenda Koncepts. They came stock on my Marin and the rear lasted me 550 miles. What a bunch of crap that is. I am a heavy rider (currently 219 and falling) but I didn't do anything to abuse them (i.e. skidding) and I wore the tred through to the belts and poped a tube. I was pissed.
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My vote against Kenda Concepts as well. My wife trashed one in one session on a trainer. No other tyre has been as easily worn as that. Short milage, and a good example of the different mileage that different brands/models have.
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I do 400 a month, again commuting. Have been using Specialized Armidillo but very disappointed. Last back tyre 650 miles, one before that burst side wall and replaced within warranty.

Have changed to Schwabe tyres with reflective strip, front one has 1500 miles on it and going strong.
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Someone told me 2000 miles front, 1000 miles back but it may be more like 2500 front, 1500 back or more based on my tracking for last year
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