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Old 08-09-11, 12:05 AM
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Purchased bike today, and chainring teeth already heavily worn.

Hello everyone,

I just started up biking and purchased my bike earlier tonight at a local bike shop. I got a Specialized Allez T More (detail on bike: https://www.greggscycles.com/CartGenie/prod-13070.htm)

Anyways, when I brought the bike home my roommate who recently started triathlons a couple months ago and had a little more knowledge on bike than myself noticed that my chain rings were very used. In fact, if you notice in the photos below, a couple of teeth on the granny gear are missing.

The only riding I have had on this bike was when I quickly test drove it in a near by trail at the local shop.

I was wondering based on these photos whether the wear on the chain rings are usual? Either way I am calling the bike shop tomorrow because I was barely changing gears when I tested out the bike, I didn't get a chance to ride because it was getting dark out, and I didn't even use the granny gear when I test drove it.







Thanks in advance for you advice!
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Teeth are specially-shaped to aid shifting.
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Yes, and you'll also notice raised and lowered areas on the chainrings which are "pins and ramps", designed to aid shifting.
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Looks ok from here. It really doesn't take much to scrape the perfect factory-finish on the teeth. If it wasn't you that rode in the granny gear, it might have been someone else who test-rode the bike before you bought it.

Shifting will cause some wear and scraping on the sides of the rings. You can see in your photos where the chain has scraped across your shifting ramps. That's by design and is nothing to worry about.

Also keep in mind that just because someone rides a bike a lot (as in a triathlon) doesn't mean that they have the mechanic side of things down.
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Exactly, all you are seeing is a little grease front the chain and worn paint. How long is paint supposed to last while metal is essential angle grinding it? I seriously doubt you have removed any metal from the chain rings.
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That is how those rings are designed as stated above......
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If you haven't been riding in a while, seeing teeth that are shaped differently from one to the next might be alarming, but as others have said, they are shaped that way by design to help with shifting. Unless the chain is skipping or something I'd say you're good to go.
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I recommend going to the shop in question, throwing a huge hissy fit and demanding a new bike.

Then, when they give you the new one, look at the chainrings and apply palm to forehead.
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Originally Posted by GeraldU
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.... my roommate who recently started triathlons a couple months ago and had a little more knowledge on bike than myself noticed that my chain rings were very used. ....
Further proof that "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing". You might take a few minutes to update your roommate on modern chainring design.
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They(the inner ones) are usually steel- it is really really hard to actually snap off the top of a tough steel tooth.
When I returned to bikes after 18 years away(1982-2000) I was surprised to see the oddly shaped teeth.(also surprised to find out brakes actually stopped bikes rather than hinting at slowing down-even cheapo bikes)
Like others said- it looks new-just as it should.
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Originally Posted by phoebeisis
(also surprised to find out brakes actually stopped bikes rather than hinting at slowing down-even cheapo bikes)
LOL! That's so true. Fodder for another thread though.
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sounds like you should just go out and ride it in the dark so you don't have to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by GeraldU
Either way I am calling the bike shop tomorrow because I was barely changing gears when I tested out the bike, I didn't get a chance to ride because it was getting dark out, and I didn't even use the granny gear when I test drove it.
I hope we've convinced you that the chainrings are the way they're supposed to be and have prevented you from calling the shop and looking like an ass.
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I hope we've convinced you that the chainrings are the way they're supposed to be and have prevented you from calling the shop and looking like an ass.
Not an issue, newbies aren't expected to know everything, and shops are very used to this question. It's so commonly asked that maybe bikes should include a hang tag explain it and other FAQs.
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Originally Posted by JiveTurkey
I hope we've convinced you that the chainrings are the way they're supposed to be and have prevented you from calling the shop and looking like an ass.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Not an issue, newbies aren't expected to know everything, and shops are very used to this question. It's so commonly asked that maybe bikes should include a hang tag explain it and other FAQs.
Perhaps but I was also thinking about the OP being an ass here if he went ahead after we'd given him overwhelming consensus. I guess I was a little irked by the 'I'll take your opinions but I'm going to call the shop either way' notion.
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Not an issue, newbies aren't expected to know everything, and shops are very used to this question. It's so commonly asked that maybe bikes should include a hang tag explain it and other FAQs.
Agreed! I had worn out a chainring and went to the LBS to get a new one. As soon as I said I need a new chainring and started to give the info for what I needed, the shop guy said "Wait a minute, let's make sure you aren't mistaking the designed-in tooth shaping for tooth wear." One look at the chainrings and he said "Oh yeah, you really do need a new ring, but lots of people who don't, think they do."
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Originally Posted by KenCarlson
Agreed! I had worn out a chainring and went to the LBS to get a new one. As soon as I said I need a new chainring and started to give the info for what I needed, the shop guy said "Wait a minute, let's make sure you aren't mistaking the designed-in tooth shaping for tooth wear." One look at the chainrings and he said "Oh yeah, you really do need a new ring, but lots of people who don't, think they do."
^^^That's a fact. I had a older gent come in a few weeks after purchasing a low-end comfort bike claiming he needed stronger chainrings, because he was tearing his to pieces!

I pointed out how the brand new ones are shaped that way as well, and he still had a hard time accepting that it wasn't his immense leg power that was the problem....
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When did ramped-and-pinned rings hit the market? Mid-90's?
When did they become the default style on new bikes?
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When did ramped-and-pinned rings hit the market? Mid-90's?
When did they become the default style on new bikes?
Probably well before that, but it didn't all happen at once. It was an evolutionary process that's been happening over a span of 30 years or so. Before the ramps and pins there were trimmed, or skipped teeth, which then evolved into the more sophisticated shift gates, and phased chainrings. the last step was the addition of the ramps and/or pins.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Not an issue, newbies aren't expected to know everything, and shops are very used to this question. It's so commonly asked that maybe bikes should include a hang tag explain it and other FAQs.
You should have worked in a shop in the BioPace days...
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You should have worked in a shop in the BioPace days...
I was working in shops long before that. back when you even had to explain that strange ticking sound the bike made whenever people coasted. The worst were three speed bikes, sometimes they'd even click while pedaling too.

I remember even having to explain that it was no harder to balance on narrow tires as fat ones.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
I remember even having to explain that it was no harder to balance on narrow tires as fat ones.
Now that is too funny LOL..........
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The worst were three speed bikes, sometimes they'd even click while pedaling too.
Hard to imagine anyone finding fault with that. A Sturmey Archer ticking along in 3rd gear is one of the most comforting sounds around.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
I was working in shops long before that. back when you even had to explain that strange ticking sound the bike made whenever people coasted. The worst were three speed bikes, sometimes they'd even click while pedaling too.

I remember even having to explain that it was no harder to balance on narrow tires as fat ones.
I still have to explain all that stuff.....

There was also a real nasty old Schwinn in last week for a full tune. The derailleurs were absolutely black with crud. They popped out of the parts washer so clean and shiny (heavy chrome plating FTW!) that the when the customer arrived, he accused me of stealing his vintage drivetrain and replacing it with cheap looking chrome parts! Facepalming ensued and I had to point out the derailleurs STILL said "Huret" on them just like the day they were built.......
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