Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Anyone Remember The ERD for the first Mavic Cosmic rim?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Anyone Remember The ERD for the first Mavic Cosmic rim?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-23-11, 01:04 PM
  #1  
greasy hermit
Thread Starter
 
geoluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: nyc
Posts: 84
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
Anyone Remember The ERD for the first Mavic Cosmic rim?

I'm building a 16 hole custom phil wood track hub to a mavic cosmic rim from the 90's (don't ask). I can't find the erd, don't feel like guessing it, was going to see if any old mechanics remember the ERD or know a place that has it posted. It's litteraly the first ever cosmic rim, its silver with yellow logos that say "cosmic" and "mavic".

this is a pic of the rim in question.



any help is greatly appreciated.
geoluv is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 01:28 PM
  #2  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,095
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
umm, can't you just measure it? do you not have an unlaced rim?
motobecane69 is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 04:53 PM
  #3  
greasy hermit
Thread Starter
 
geoluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: nyc
Posts: 84
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
^ every time i try measuring a rim i double and triple check to make sure i got it right and then i'm still off, what equation/method do you suggest?
geoluv is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 05:15 PM
  #4  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,095
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I just use two spokes screwed all the way into the nipple and place them in from opposite sides measure the gap and then add that to the length of the 2 spokes.
motobecane69 is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 05:59 PM
  #5  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Cosmic

looks to be carbon/Aluminum?

https://www.tech-mavic.com/tech-mavic...SpareParts.pdf
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 08:06 PM
  #6  
greasy hermit
Thread Starter
 
geoluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: nyc
Posts: 84
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
Originally Posted by motobecane69
I just use two spokes screwed all the way into the nipple and place them in from opposite sides measure the gap and then add that to the length of the 2 spokes.

thats what i do but that doesn't account for spoke hole offset. ugh. looks like i gotta break out the measuring tape.

Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
^thats the info on the NEW cosmic carbon/aluminum wheelset, the one i have is waaay older, could be the same erd, could be slightly different, either way that pdf is only page 21 and it says spoke lengths are on page 34 - 35.

Last edited by geoluv; 08-23-11 at 08:09 PM.
geoluv is offline  
Old 08-23-11, 09:52 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,696

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5774 Post(s)
Liked 2,572 Times in 1,424 Posts
Originally Posted by geoluv
thats what i do but that doesn't account for spoke hole offset. ugh. looks like i gotta break out the measuring tape.
Spoke hole offset barely matters. It has the same effect as an equal change in flange to center distance, so the change in spoke length is only about 10% of the change in offset, or a few tenths of a millimeter.

That's less than the rounding and so isn't material.

If you want to factor the offset, measure the distance from the rim centerline, and add or subtract it from the flange/center distance when entering that into your calculator.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Old 08-24-11, 01:04 PM
  #8  
Constant tinkerer
 
FastJake's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 7,954
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 75 Posts
My Cosmic wheel looks exactly like yours, but it has 18 spokes. It also has a Saturn Racing Team sticker. I wonder if it's newer than yours.

Sorry to not contribute to the actual thread...
FastJake is offline  
Old 08-24-11, 05:23 PM
  #9  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
erd

Originally Posted by geoluv
^thats the info on the NEW cosmic carbon/aluminum wheelset, the one i have is waaay older, could be the same erd, could be slightly different, either way that pdf is only page 21 and it says spoke lengths are on page 34 - 35.
that spoke length will be for their hub, not yours.
Mavic uses spoke support diameter, not ERD.
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 08-30-11, 07:13 PM
  #10  
greasy hermit
Thread Starter
 
geoluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: nyc
Posts: 84
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
Behold!!!


geoluv is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
pstock
Bicycle Mechanics
5
05-30-17 12:39 AM
biketrax
Bicycle Mechanics
5
08-22-13 04:36 AM
igno-mtb
Mountain Biking
1
05-31-11 07:24 AM
peripatetic
Classic & Vintage
5
11-11-10 06:56 PM
Muttleyone
Bicycle Mechanics
3
01-28-10 08:19 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.