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    Preparing a bike for outside storage/waterproofing?

    Hey guys, I have a specialized hard rock sport disc 29er and I am debating bringing it to college with me, problem is there is no place to store a bike that is covered, and I am on a 5th floor dorm, so storing it in my room will be only during the winter.

    1. Is it even viable to set up a bike so it can withstand the elements without it getting damaged.
    2. If so what all do I need to do to get it waterproof'd, Type of chain lube? Is there anything I would do to the frame, derailleurs, brake disc's, calipers, shift levers and brake levers? I apologize its a lot to explain, I just really haven't been able to find a definitive answer.

    I wipe, clean, re-lube chain on a regular basis with finish line wet and that's about it for maintenance.

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    The frame is aluminum, so that won't rust, but the chain, and most of the bolts will; lubing will help to a point, but if left exposed to the elements, corrosion will win, the discs will probably also show rust, but this will be removed after your first stop.

    Would be more concerned about the bike being there if leaving outside, is the storage solution secure?

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    I hate to say the solution for you is to buy something, but it is. I would recommend a folding bike...
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    Don't worry, it'll be stolen long before the weather gets it. My bike was stolen while I was moving in freshman year. My new roommate was supposed to be guarding it--strongly suspect he was the thief, after getting to know him better. I'd keep the nice bike well-locked in the room or at home and get an ugly beater for campus transportation--rust will only enhance its anti-theft aura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimc101 View Post
    Would be more concerned about the bike being there if leaving outside, is the storage solution secure?
    There are bike racks EVERYWHERE, outside of each building, and I got a lock that i can loop through my front wheel and frame, so I'm not all too worried for that. Plus there are cops everywhere and tons of people use bikes here. I just think most of them aren't aware that bikes can get injured by the elements, and all the bikes around here are owned by first years so none have undergone much damage yet.

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    I hate to say the solution for you is to buy something, but it is. I would recommend a folding bike...
    Unfortunately I do not have the budget for that, its either I prep mine for use or continue walking. I don't need a bike, but I would really like to have mine here, and seeing all the other people with bikes doesn't help either.

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    Is there no covered storage anywhere? At UMN, many of the bike racks are uncovered. But, there are a few here and there that are positioned underneath overhangs of buildings. If you have any doubt, look where the rain line is on the cement when it rains. You probably won't need your bike just to get back and forth to class, so you could leave it underneath an enclosure unless you needed to ride across town or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherezade View Post
    Is there no covered storage anywhere? At UMN, many of the bike racks are uncovered. But, there are a few here and there that are positioned underneath overhangs of buildings. If you have any doubt, look where the rain line is on the cement when it rains. You probably won't need your bike just to get back and forth to class, so you could leave it underneath an enclosure unless you needed to ride across town or something.
    I have checked every bike rack near my dorm and classes, some are next to building's but NONE OF THEM have any overhang or rack cover at all. Trust me when I say waterproofing is my last chance if its even possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbat35 View Post
    I have checked every bike rack near my dorm and classes, some are next to building's but NONE OF THEM have any overhang or rack cover at all. Trust me when I say waterproofing is my last chance if its even possible.
    I see. I put a tarp over a bike when I had to leave it out one winter in undergrad. It's not convenient if you need regular access to the bike, but it's certainly waterproof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherezade View Post
    I see. I put a tarp over a bike when I had to leave it out one winter in undergrad. It's not convenient if you need regular access to the bike, but it's certainly waterproof.
    I thought about that, but I would feel like a complete looser taking out a tarp and covering it constantly. Plus if I did when I thought it would rain there would be times it didn't look like it was going to rain, and then when it starts the bike would get wet anyway. Also a large tarp over a bike I think would target a bike soo much that I think it would be messed with.

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    "..but I would feel like a complete looser taking out a tarp and covering it constantly."
    If you think keeping your bike dry makes you a loser, let it get wet.
    "Plus if I did when I thought it would rain there would be times it didn't look like it was going to rain, and then when it starts the bike would get wet anyway."
    Just convince yourself that the damaging rays from the sun are just as destructive as rust. Then you'll be motivated to cover it in all conditions.
    "Also a large tarp over a bike I think would target a bike soo much that I think it would be messed with."
    You just finished talking up the security you get from the lock and the cops EVERYWHERE.

    I guess you have to decide which is more important to you-a complete strangers opinion of you based on you keeping your bike dry, or keeping your bike dry.
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    Cosmoline?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmoline

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    I would recommend a folding bike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vredstein View Post
    "..but I would feel like a complete looser taking out a tarp and covering it constantly."
    If you think keeping your bike dry makes you a loser, let it get wet.
    "Plus if I did when I thought it would rain there would be times it didn't look like it was going to rain, and then when it starts the bike would get wet anyway."
    Just convince yourself that the damaging rays from the sun are just as destructive as rust. Then you'll be motivated to cover it in all conditions.
    "Also a large tarp over a bike I think would target a bike soo much that I think it would be messed with."
    You just finished talking up the security you get from the lock and the cops EVERYWHERE.

    I guess you have to decide which is more important to you-a complete strangers opinion of you based on you keeping your bike dry, or keeping your bike dry.
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    When I say feel like a looser I mean as in I'm the only one in the rack covering my bike with a tarp, all the people who think bikes can just take the elements would look and think that. And yes my bike is secure with locks, but it would attract attention. I know my locks are tough, but its just like that guy for the lifelock software. Even though I'm protected, I still don't want to advertise to the world "hey come see whats under here, it is probably nice." and in the case of that guy who was passing out fliers with his SSC and making billboards with it, he thought he was safe and he ended up attracting so many attempts and thief's that a few did get past him, and now hes broke.

    I'm not making a thread to shoot down every suggestion I get, and any practical ones I will commend, I'm just posting why I can/or cannot use the posted solutions so further posters and viewers know that.

    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Thats actually a decent idea, however I work with guns a decent amount and I happen to know how cosmoline works in actions and moving parts. Lets just put it this way, A properly stored and treated *** in an armory cannot have its bolt even opened. Comsmoline seals the *** from the environment, and pretty much from everything else.

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    Can you hang a storage rack from the wall? I know most dorms don't officially allow this, but they may turn a blind eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawmutt View Post
    Can you hang a storage rack from the wall? I know most dorms don't officially allow this, but they may turn a blind eye.
    There are plenty of storage racks which use no fasteners and won't mar walls. Would they be OK?

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    Wait a minute, why would you be able to only store the bike inside for winter?

    Logically I would say if you can store it for winter, you can store it for non-winter
    I know from all the dorms I have been to, no one cared if a bike went inside, in fact that was the preferred option when someone had a nice bike. Against the rules? Maybe but I am sure the RA or whomever has something better to do than look for bikes in dorms...

    Most dorms also have privacy policies to protect students, so the 'authority' can't just come in whenever they want, but the trick is that you have to keep the door closed and secure. IF it is left open, they can come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawmutt View Post
    Can you hang a storage rack from the wall? I know most dorms don't officially allow this, but they may turn a blind eye.
    I have room on the floor to, but yea I cannot mount a rack on the wall. The dorm RA's wouldn't care, but in the end of the year when they inspect my room and compare with my original condition sheet they would see it had no holes before and I would get charged for it. But like I said I do have room for it on the floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsbrantjr View Post
    There are plenty of storage racks which use no fasteners and won't mar walls. Would they be OK?
    On a 29 inch mountain bike, no. Removable fasteners are usually limited to 5-10 lbs, and I don't know how I would hold a bike with that, I could use a ton of sticky pads on the back of some ply and screw in a mount, but again I have room for it in my dorm.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Fishes View Post
    Wait a minute, why would you be able to only store the bike inside for winter?

    Logically I would say if you can store it for winter, you can store it for non-winter
    I know from all the dorms I have been to, no one cared if a bike went inside, in fact that was the preferred option when someone had a nice bike. Against the rules? Maybe but I am sure the RA or whomever has something better to do than look for bikes in dorms...

    Most dorms also have privacy policies to protect students, so the 'authority' can't just come in whenever they want, but the trick is that you have to keep the door closed and secure. IF it is left open, they can come in.
    Its ok for me to have a bike inside and all, but this is my main point:

    I live on the fifth floor. So every time I decided I wanted to use my bike if it was in my dorm, I would have to take off the front wheel, wrestle it down the stairs, go into the elevator which it would have to be held vertically, and then bring it down. The elevators only go to even floor numbers. This is what I am trying to avoid, because it would be very very difficult and I don't feel like doing this twice a day. I was just trying to find if there is a simple, or even if it takes a few hours just a way to get the bike waterproofed or something so I wouldn't have to. Really I have 2 options at this point I guess, Cover it every night with a tarp, or bring it between my dorm. I'll have to think if I want to do either. Thanks for the input guys, any advice is help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbat35 View Post
    I live on the fifth floor. So every time I decided I wanted to use my bike if it was in my dorm, I would have to take off the front wheel, wrestle it down the stairs, go into the elevator which it would have to be held vertically, and then bring it down. The elevators only go to even floor numbers. This is what I am trying to avoid, because it would be very very difficult and I don't feel like doing this twice a day. I was just trying to find if there is a simple, or even if it takes a few hours just a way to get the bike waterproofed or something so I wouldn't have to. Really I have 2 options at this point I guess, Cover it every night with a tarp, or bring it between my dorm. I'll have to think if I want to do either. Thanks for the input guys, any advice is help!
    Ohh right, I was going to address this issue, but I've forgotten to include the point. I am thinking this is a private uni, because there is no chance in hell that a public uni would have such a screwed up system. For one, it would be in violation of the ADA, and the elevator would need to be able to stop at every floor. In the off chance that it is a public uni, you can maybe stir the pot and see what comes from it. Chances are though that any changes that will happen will happen well after you've moved out. I still think bringing it in is the best option. A tarp might protect the bike but at the same time might be marking it for thieves to try and steal. Either way, I think both options have pros and cons. What other bikes are parked on the racks at the dorms btw? All beater bikes? Maybe you can try to park yours closer to the more expensive bikes if any are to be found.

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    Wow at some of the responses here... Most important question: do you plan to do serious mountain biking at school, or just ride to class and stuff? If you're just riding around, leave the nice bike at home and get something rideable on craigslist for <$25. Seriously, don't bother with a tarp or carrying your bike upstairs every day, or any of the other pain-in-the-butt solutions. You'll get sick of them, and your bike will end up ruined by the elements anyway. Or stolen.

    This year I pieced a bike together for free, made out of two Huffys. Most of it is an old 3 speed. The fork is from a MTB so I can run a 26" MTB tire which is what I really need for the snow (I ride all year.) Tonight I just painted the whole mess flat black. I might not even bother locking it up this year. It's very ugly.

    A bike that is easily accessible and doesn't need to be worried about will provide A LOT more enjoyment and real use than one you have to constantly screw around with.
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    To add on to that, I know the unis I have went to and visited leave notices at the end of every term on bikes left on campus that they will be 're-possessed' by the campus police and sold at auction. If this happens, I would show up and just bid on whatever bike for the minimum amount. Bound to snag one beat bike for super cheap, and should last the term. If it breaks, you can rinse and repeat!

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    I rode old used beater bikes since I was 3 until i got my specialized new. I LOVE riding it, and mis shifting problematic beaters drive me nuts. Most of the bikes in the rack are bad but on occasion I see guys with nicer bikes out there. It was raining 2 days ago and I saw a 2011 stumpjumper fsr expert carbon out on the rack getting dumped on. I was about to go to the shop and grab the oxy-acyt torch to cut it free and shelter it in my hall. Such an expensive bike!!!!!! WHO DOES THAT, WHY WHYYYYYY?????


    I don't need a bike for transportation, I just wana ride mine around here, there's some cool trails and a lot of the 1 ways have cement berms to prevent flooding that I could really have fun with.

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    I used to leave my steel road bike outside 24/7 in a rainy, coastal town.
    Clean and wax the frame.
    If the bearings are cup and cone, pack them with as much grease as you can.
    Use gease or copper anti-sieze on all metal-metal contacts (stem, seatpost, pedal threads, all bolts)
    Use grease to prevent corrosion of QR spindles. Oil the QR actions.
    When you replace your cable inners, grease them generously.
    Use wax to protect exposed sections of cable and spokes. Use furniture polish sprayed onto a cloth: NOT the bike, wax will klll the brakes.
    Put a large, tough plastic bag over your saddle, long enough to cover the seatpost clamp. Store the bag between your saddle rails when riding.
    You could try chain wax rather than oil. You have to apply this in the warm. Once winter hits, you cant apply any more. You can buy chains which have a rustproof treatment.

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    Here's an indoor storage stand that will handle your 29er and leave no marks/holes in the wall:
    http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...9_20000_400245
    It's freestanding, but I have mine against the wall. Although it's "officially" designed to hold bikes horizontally, I just hang my mountain bike by its front wheel from one of the top arms. Although I bought mine new, I bought a second one for $20 on craigslist in like-new condition (as they're hard to damage).

    Consider keeping it in your room. If you're only using it for trail riding, you won't have to lug it up/down as much as if you were using it around campus. I'm not sure why you would have to take off the front wheel to move it, but then again, I haven't seen your building.

    To protect it in the rain, MW's idea about a plastic bag to cover the seat down past the seatpost clamp is a great one, as usually, water gets into the seat tube and collects down around your BB. Some recommend drilling a small drain hole through the BB shell bottom if there isn't already such a hole.

    Another good protectant for non-moving/rubbing parts is Boeshield T9. It goes on as a runny liquid and dries to a waxy coating.
    Last edited by Mondoman; 08-27-11 at 03:09 AM.

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    I'd have another talk with the RA and maybe a campus security or physical plant guy about your issue. I'm sure they have seen situations like yours before. At my college, the solution was special permission to park the bike in the bottom level of the dorm stairwell.

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    fitted plastic covers are VERY cheap, i think i paid .99p for my last one, and they last quite well. at least mine do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbat35 View Post
    There are bike racks EVERYWHERE, outside of each building, and I got a lock that i can loop through my front wheel and frame, so I'm not all too worried for that. Plus there are cops everywhere and tons of people use bikes here.......
    I hate to say this but you're dreaming in Technicolor if you think that this will slow down any sort of half determined bike thief. You're in an environment where you are totally predictable doing the same bike riding and parking pattern each week. And I don't know of many 29'ers that are not relatively new and likely set up with nice components. So I have to agree with those that say the bike will be long gone before weather takes it's toll.

    The "right" way is to park your 29'er safely in the dorm room somehow, some way. And then only use it for longer day rides off campus. Your campus riding should be done with a beater bike that looks like rabid gerbils were give it for a chew toy. Now that doesn't mean you can't fix up the innards to make it a nice bike to ride. Just don't doll it up so it looks nicer than the other bikes on the rack. Then when rust has its way with the fasteners and exposed alloy you don't need to worry about it. Just keep the chain and rest of the moving parts clean and lubed on a regular basis so the riding is up to par. It's surprising how well a Wally World junk bike can perform if it's well tuned and maintained. Certainly well enough for getting from class to class. And it won't have the BLING! factor to draw the eye and you won't need to care if it gets a bit rusty in spots.
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