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Old 09-05-11, 12:57 PM   #1
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Upgrade Difficulty

Hello,

I have a 2011 Trek 1.1 and was looking at possibly upgrading it; and wanted to spec out the upgrading cost before making a decision. Since I know nothing, (zero) about bike mechanics, I was hoping for some positive experience from the forum. I am looking at changing the brifters from stock Shimano 2300 STI, 8 speed to a Microshift. (http://goo.gl/qTWp1)

Some questions:
- What is the difficult level of changing the brifters myself?
- Do I need to change anything else to make the Microshift compatible?
- Are there any online retailers that sell the brifters or something compatible?

I am not a racer so weight is not a concern; just want something that I can shift in the drops.

Thanks in advance
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A recent thread on BF discussed users' experiences with Microshift components. The overall impression I gained from reading it is that the small upshift lever on Microshift shifters is not truly accessible for shifting in the drops.

Microshift operates with the same actuation ratios as Shimano, so your derailleurs are fine. Normally, it's nice to install new housing with the new cables, but your bike is fairly new, and your existing housing is likely in fine condition. I'd probably replace the housing loop at the rear dérailleur because it tends to wear more quickly. You could ask a shop to cut a section to correct length if you don't have a cutter.

Installing the shifters will require tuning the derailleurs. You'll also have to either install new tape or rewrap your existing tape if it's in good condition. Both of these tasks can be frustrating for first timers.
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you own a 2001 Trek 1.1 or a 2011 Trek 1.1. If the latter, I would be surprised if it is equipped with an 8 speed drivetrain, and I doubt it would need upgrading.
As for your actual question, I can add nothing to desertdork's response above, which seems to be just about as comprehensive as you could need. Good luck!

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Ratio range is a different thing, difference in size , tooth count,
between largest and smallest.

more 'speeds' is just adding another cog in-between the inner and outer cogs
in a cassette.

what ratio are you missing that your current set-up does not offer?
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Ratio range is a different thing, difference in size , tooth count,
between largest and smallest.

more 'speeds' is just adding another cog in-between the inner and outer cogs
in a cassette.

what ratio are you missing that your current set-up does not offer?
I'd be unhappy without one tooth jumps up to the 19 cog.
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you own a 2001 Trek 1.1 or a 2011 Trek 1.1. If the latter, I would be surprised if it is equipped with an 8 speed drivetrain, and I doubt it would need upgrading.
As for your actual question, I can add nothing to desertdork's response above, which seems to be just about as comprehensive as you could need. Good luck!

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I have a 2011 Trek 1.1 and it is equipped with 8 speed. Shimano 2300 STI, 8 speed / Sun Race CSR86 12-25, 8 speed
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Ratio range is a different thing, difference in size , tooth count,
between largest and smallest.

more 'speeds' is just adding another cog in-between the inner and outer cogs
in a cassette.

what ratio are you missing that your current set-up does not offer?
I am not missing any ratios, I don't want to change the drivetrain, just looking for better shifting, from the drops.
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A recent thread on BF discussed users' experiences with Microshift components. The overall impression I gained from reading it is that the small upshift lever on Microshift shifters is not truly accessible for shifting in the drops.
I was afraid of these; is there an alternative to the Microshift components?

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Installing the shifters will require tuning the derailleurs. You'll also have to either install new tape or rewrap your existing tape if it's in good condition. Both of these tasks can be frustrating for first timers.
So it is best to go to LBS.
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It isn't too difficult, but adjusting the derailleurs can be a bit tricky. Look at some of the information on Park tools to see if it looks like something you want to look at park tools and see if this is a task that you want to learn
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It isn't too difficult, but adjusting the derailleurs can be a bit tricky. Look at some of the information on Park tools to see if it looks like something you want to look at park tools and see if this is a task that you want to learn

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http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...illeur-systems
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Why can't you shift in the drops with Sora? it's designed for that.

For any upgrading on a lower end road bike, would be supprised if it isn't cheaper in the long run to sell it, and get a new one with the spec you need; 8 speed is obsolete on road bikes, Sora is now (MY2012 3400) 9 speed, and the part you want to change, the STI are normally the most expensive part on a road bike.

If you do change, and have never worked on a bike before, be prepared to take it to your LBS to get the bar tape wrapped, if you are going to do this a home, be prepared to have a few goes before you get it right.
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Why can't you shift in the drops with Sora? it's designed for that.

For any upgrading on a lower end road bike, would be supprised if it isn't cheaper in the long run to sell it, and get a new one with the spec you need; 8 speed is obsolete on road bikes, Sora is now (MY2012 3400) 9 speed, and the part you want to change, the STI are normally the most expensive part on a road bike.
My thumbs don't reached the shifters in the drops; either I have small thumbs or I am doing it wrong.
I see many posts on BF that people have upgraded their old steel frames with newer components, so I don't understand why it would be cheaper to buy a new bike; I thought it would be cheaper to upgrade the frame I currently have.
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