bontrager is leading the pack on broken parts.
11-16-11, 04:30 PM
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bontrager is leading the pack on broken parts.
https://share.ovi.com/media/currentre...resident.10390 The last 4 rims that I've seen cracked are Bontrager here are 3 of them. The last 5 cracked hubs I've seen are Bontrager 4 freewheel side rear flange and 1 front. He should know better than this all of them had reduced spoke count and plain guage spokes. On the bright side the rubber freehub seal I took out of one of the hubs and put in a Shimano hub is still going strong after 20000 miles.
11-16-11, 04:43 PM
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Be fair, Bontrager hasn't really been Bontrager since Trek took them over and moved them from Santa Cruz; it's just a brand now, nothing really to do with what it started out as.
11-16-11, 04:53 PM
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Keith Bontrager had a small machine shop in a garage next to his house.
then he got to be a Trek owned brand. moved to Wisconsin?..
They own Gary Fisher's soul now too, he sold it.
now all are contracts , designs fulfilled by the usual manufacturers.
CAD emails as easily as this did.
then he got to be a Trek owned brand. moved to Wisconsin?..
They own Gary Fisher's soul now too, he sold it.
now all are contracts , designs fulfilled by the usual manufacturers.
CAD emails as easily as this did.
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Add Klein to that, Klein has disappeared as a brand.
Trek also licensed Lemond but they had a big falling out.
Icon used to be the Trek in-house brand in the mid-90's but that has long disappeared. Rolf wheels were another brand Trek seem to have had an exclusive with but is long finished now, and Rolf seem to be doing OK on their own now.
Trek also licensed Lemond but they had a big falling out.
Icon used to be the Trek in-house brand in the mid-90's but that has long disappeared. Rolf wheels were another brand Trek seem to have had an exclusive with but is long finished now, and Rolf seem to be doing OK on their own now.
11-16-11, 11:51 PM
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11-17-11, 01:11 AM
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I Had one crack at several spokes, the wheel was always coming out of true. I put/drippwed purple locktite in the nipples-no more problems!!
11-17-11, 09:32 AM
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All companies that keep trying to be lighter and more responsive than the lightest and most responsive will always lead the pack in broken parts.
You would think the newest company would learn from Bontrager would learn from Ritchey would learn from Mavic would learn from _____________, n++;
Puts me to sleep really...
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You would think the newest company would learn from Bontrager would learn from Ritchey would learn from Mavic would learn from _____________, n++;
Puts me to sleep really...
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The hub-flange breakage problem included the rebadged DT Swiss hubs. Beefy, definitely not underbuilt, but there was something inherently wrong with them. The one that took the cake was the 2004 Lance Edition Madone that we kept in the box for its owner, sealed and unbuilt, until like 2009. Finally he decided he wanted The Precious built, so he could put it in a showcase (I kid you not) at his office. Open the box and YES the hub flange had broken in two places without ever being used. Great.
Anyway yeah, if I had a dollar for every Bontrager-badged paired-spoke wheel I've seen with rim cracks, I could have pizza every day for a week
They've been liberal about the warranty coverage, even on wheels approaching 3-4 years age. I have a rack of loaner wheels to keep the customers rolling in the meanwhile. A couple years ago, there were times when I had them all deployed, but it's dying down as those wheels go away.
Anyway yeah, if I had a dollar for every Bontrager-badged paired-spoke wheel I've seen with rim cracks, I could have pizza every day for a week
They've been liberal about the warranty coverage, even on wheels approaching 3-4 years age. I have a rack of loaner wheels to keep the customers rolling in the meanwhile. A couple years ago, there were times when I had them all deployed, but it's dying down as those wheels go away.
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11-17-11, 11:28 AM
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The hub-flange breakage problem included the rebadged DT Swiss hubs. Beefy, definitely not underbuilt, but there was something inherently wrong with them. The one that took the cake was the 2004 Lance Edition Madone that we kept in the box for its owner, sealed and unbuilt, until like 2009. Finally he decided he wanted The Precious built, so he could put it in a showcase (I kid you not) at his office. Open the box and YES the hub flange had broken in two places without ever being used. Great.
Anyway yeah, if I had a dollar for every Bontrager-badged paired-spoke wheel I've seen with rim cracks, I could have pizza every day for a week They've been liberal about the warranty coverage, even on wheels approaching 3-4 years age. I have a rack of loaner wheels to keep the customers rolling in the meanwhile. A couple years ago, there were times when I had them all deployed, but it's dying down as those wheels go away.
Anyway yeah, if I had a dollar for every Bontrager-badged paired-spoke wheel I've seen with rim cracks, I could have pizza every day for a week
They've been liberal about the warranty coverage, even on wheels approaching 3-4 years age. I have a rack of loaner wheels to keep the customers rolling in the meanwhile. A couple years ago, there were times when I had them all deployed, but it's dying down as those wheels go away.it's hard to see from the pictures, but to me, it looks like the hub material was too hard.
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11-17-11, 11:45 AM
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Trendy wheels, too few spokes, so loading is concentrated on the remaining few.
and that slot feed thru for the bladed spokes
overtensioned, too. NB, the drive side went ..
looked trick on the CAD sent to the contract factory, though..
and that slot feed thru for the bladed spokes
overtensioned, too. NB, the drive side went ..
looked trick on the CAD sent to the contract factory, though..
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