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    Panasonic dx5000 needs new spokes.

    Hello all, just have a question about spoke size.

    I currently have an '88 Panasonic Dx5000, and yesterday one of my spokes snapped. Now my wheel is all over the place and not rideable. This bike as far as I know( im only the owner of it for 1 yr) has never had a tune up. I've trued the rim at a local bike show here in NYC but it constantly warps and needed retrueing every month.

    I don't think it's the LBSs fault they have done my front rim ands it's perfect for 8 months now. But anyway this leads me to believe it might be the old spokes. Should I just replace the one broken spoke, or dish out for a new set?

    Second part of this what size spoke would I be lookin at? It's a rear Ukai 20a 32h with a Shimano 600 Ultegra 7 speed.

    Any advice would help. TIA
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    It would be best to match the spokes that you have. Take one spoke off and bring it with you to your LBS and get the closest thing or just have them fix the wheel. Likely it would only cost about $20 for them to do it.

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    If your wheel isn't holding true for more than a month then something isn't being done correctly. Either the spokes are not evenly tensioned, the rim is damaged or there is windup in the spokes. Also, if the spokes are breaking repeatedly it's likely that the some spokes have been compromised by the extra load incurred when an adjacent spoke breaks.

    I'd take the wheel to your LBS and explain the situation and have them fix the wheel. It may only require balancing of the spoke tension or they may recommend replacing all the spokes. It will cost more up front but the wheel should last indefinitely.

    If you want to rebuild the wheel yourself, it isn't that hard and there's lots of good information available on the net. However, after you buy the spokes and a nipple wrench and whatever other tools you need, you won't really be saving any money on a single couple of wheels vs having your LBS do the work.

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    From your description, I would look very carefully for cracks in the hub or rim. If none are found, replace all of the spokes. Use 2.0mm (14 guage) stainless steel spokes. As noted, you need to match the length of the current spokes.

    If there are cracks in the hub or rim, it would be cheaper for you to purchase a whole new wheel.
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    Yeah I called my LBS and they explained that if I decide to replace all my spokes btwn cost and labor I might as well get a new wheel.

    Can anyone recommend a site that I can create a custom wheel? I have never bought a wheel for 700c. So I'm not too sure what to look for. I ride in NYC streets about 100 miles a week, but looking to do about 200miles a week during winter(until it snows).

    I want to keep budget to about 500 tops. Is that possible for the durability of NYC streets?

    TIA-rr

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRider View Post
    Yeah I called my LBS and they explained that if I decide to replace all my spokes btwn cost and labor I might as well get a new wheel.
    This is what shops will tell you when they are too busy/lazy/inexperienced to take the time to properly build a wheel for you. The most common reason why spokes break is because the wheel is not properly tensioned from the factory, and any ready-build wheel that the shop likely had in mind when they told you to replace will have this problem. A properly built custom wheel will likely be more expensive than replacing just rim and spokes. If you use your old rim and hub and just replace the spokes, or go with a whole new wheel, if it is properly built and tensioned and stress relieved then it should last a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRider View Post

    I want to keep budget to about 500 tops. Is that possible for the durability of NYC streets?

    TIA-rr
    $500 for one wheel? Wow! You don't need to spend anywhere close to that to get a good durable wheel. If you can reuse the hub, parts costs can be as low as $100 for a really good wheel. Throw in some labor charges and you should be out the door for about $150.

    Since you're on the right coast, I'd suggest maybe you contact either Longleaf Bicycles or Peter White Cycles. They are just a bit north of you and can hook you up. Check their websites and give them a buzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeferRider View Post
    ......Can anyone recommend a site that I can create a custom wheel? .....
    TIA-rr
    Peter White.
    http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/index.html

    Read over his website, then give him a call to discuss your needs/desires. Peter builds wheels his way, and stands behind them. He will want to know a LOT about you, your bike and where you ride; then will provide his recommendation.
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