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Old 11-24-11, 08:23 AM
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Which BB tool(s) do I need?

Time to overhaul the BB on my 20 year old cross bike, which tools do I need? It looks like the Park HCW-4 will remove the center, but what about the 4 slot cup?

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Any hook spanner will do as it doesn't have to engage more than one notch at a time. Park's HCW-5 is suitable but there are others including Hozan and Suguino versions. Many bike mechanics don't bother with the spanner but remove the lockring with a punch and hammer placing the punch into one of the notches. These lockrings are standard right-hand threaded.

If you are going to overhaul and reinstall this bottom bracket you should get the tools but if you are going to replace it with a modern cartridge type then having your LBS remove it is probably less expensive.
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Cool, thanks for the response!
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Another job for the crummy screwdriver.

Stick it in one of the slots and tap it around with a mallet. That's a left handed thread by the way.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Another job for the crummy screwdriver.

Stick it in one of the slots and tap it around with a mallet. That's a left handed thread by the way.
Since when is the lockring on an English bb left-hand threaded? Only the fixed cup is.
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OK, upon further investigation, do I get the fixed HCW-4 or the adjustable SPA-6 to remove the center part?
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Originally Posted by Stoeger
OK, upon further investigation, do I get the fixed HCW-4 or the adjustable SPA-6 to remove the center part?
If you are going to completely remove the entire bottom bracket, including the fixed cup, you will need the HCW-4. If you are going to leave the fixed cup in place and just clean it there, then the SPA-6 is more versatile.

BTW, if the bike is really 20 years old, has been used for cyclocross or even ridden in any kind of wet or dirty conditions and this is the first time the bottom bracket has been serviced, don't be surprised if it's too badly rusted or pitted to reuse. If that's the case, replacement with a sealed cartridge unit is highly recommended and your new tools will not be useful.
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Originally Posted by Stoeger
Time to overhaul the BB on my 20 year old cross bike, which tools do I need? It looks like the Park HCW-4 will remove the center, but what about the 4 slot cup?
Just being pedantic here, but the cup IS the centre bit, that thing on the outside is the lockring.

And the correct tool is the Park BFH-3 combined with the OSS-1.

That's the big hammer, and old screwdriver, if you were wondering. You can work out what the rest of the acronyms stand for yourselves.
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