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    how much play on mavic ksyrium equipe?

    hi,

    i ride a set of 2011 ksyrium equipe's, and i'm thinking about opening them up to re-grease (how often shoul I do it?).
    Now, when i pull from side to side on the rim, I noticed some play, very minimal tough; about a fifth of a millimetre. since they have only done 2000km i was wondering if that is the play i am aiming for whem i tighten them up after regreasing, or are they just wearing in? and should i therefore tighten them untill there is no more play in them

    thanks in advance!

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    I talked to a guy at Enduro bearings and he said there should be a small amount of play at the rim. Those are radial ball bearings and are not designed for side loads.

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    Are the bearings servicable in those hubs? Sealed cartridge bearings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog3 View Post
    Are the bearings servicable in those hubs? Sealed cartridge bearings?
    Yes, they are sealed cartridge bearings. To the OP: do not attempt to "open them up" as you say, the cartridge units are not serviceable. The bearings will likely last a very long time. I've had good luck with Mavic hubs in regard to durability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well biked View Post
    To the OP: do not attempt to "open them up" as you say, the cartridge units are not serviceable.
    Wow, thanks a lot, because that was EXACTLY what i was going to do .
    don't these bearings become dry after a while? and how often should i service the other bearings on my bike, like the BB or headset?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaweezonderkap View Post
    Wow, thanks a lot, because that was EXACTLY what i was going to do .
    don't these bearings become dry after a while? and how often should i service the other bearings on my bike, like the BB or headset?

    thanks
    The key question is whether or not the bottom bracket and headset use cartridge bearings. Almost a 100% chance the bb does, could go either way on the headset, but more expensive, newer bikes will use cartridges in the headset, too. With cartridge bearings, you basically use them until they wear out, then replace. There are some exceptions, but this is almost always true. They're sealed, and will usually last a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well biked View Post
    The key question is whether or not the bottom bracket and headset use cartridge bearings. Almost a 100% chance the bb does, could go either way on the headset, but more expensive, newer bikes will use cartridges in the headset, too. With cartridge bearings, you basically use them until they wear out, then replace. There are some exceptions, but this is almost always true. They're sealed, and will usually last a long time.
    If your headset and BB are of the unsealed, loose variety and depending on how often you ride, riding conditions, etc. service every winter if you can, otherwise in the event you adjust them and it is nigh impossible to achieve a balance of play and smoothness or the bearings start to feel chunky then it's time to overhaul.
    Last edited by Wheels Of Steel; 12-06-11 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels Of Steel View Post
    If your headset and BB are of the unsealed, loose variety and depending on how often you ride, riding conditions, etc. service every winter if you can, otherwise in the event you adjust them and it is nigh impossible to achieve a balance of play and smoothness or the bearings start to feel chunky then it's time to overhaul.
    Not sure why you responded to my quote....nothing I said contradicts what you just said, nor was I asking a question. Maybe you meant to quote the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well biked View Post
    The key question is whether or not the bottom bracket and headset use cartridge bearings. Almost a 100% chance the bb does, could go either way on the headset, but more expensive, newer bikes will use cartridges in the headset, too. With cartridge bearings, you basically use them until they wear out, then replace. There are some exceptions, but this is almost always true. They're sealed, and will usually last a long time.
    the headset says FSA IS-2 on it, and the BB is standard ultegra 6700 i guess.
    I found this interesting link in the workshop section of bikeradar of a mechanic popping open a cartridge bearing :S ...
    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/a...bearings-18623
    I think i'll just wear the cartridges out and replace them when they're totaly worn out. Since from what I understand you can wear these cartridges out to whatever point you like, and be fine when you put a new one in, unlike cone & cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog3 View Post
    Are the bearings servicable in those hubs? Sealed cartridge bearings?
    Yes they are. It's easy to remove the seal. I flush them with brake cleaner, dry and regrease them. They are cheap enough to run them until they are shot and then replace them if you don't want to bother servicing them. This is a good source: http://www.enduroforkseals.com/index.html.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaweezonderkap View Post
    I think i'll just wear the cartridges out and replace them when they're totaly worn out.
    That's the way to go. As I said in my earlier post, there are exceptions, such as Chris King cartridge bearing assemblies that are actually designed to be re-greased in some cases for example, but for the most part, cartridge bearings on bicycles are a disposable item that are replaced when they wear out.

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