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    Will all Shimano Bar-end shifters work with a triple crankset?

    I'm looking for 9 speed indexed (at the cassette) Bar-end shifters. Do all versions shift triples? I'll be using a Tiagra front derailleur for triple. I'll also be using a Deore triple crankset.
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    Shimano Dura-Ace 7700 BS77 Bar End Shifter

    These were the only model that would shift 3x9 that I could find.
    Last edited by Wheels Of Steel; 12-06-11 at 10:55 AM.

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    being stepless friction levers on the left, they are a popular choice,
    for touring triples,
    whether the crank & FD came from MTB, or Road bike parts list.

    they call the 9 speed DA , the 8 speed was 'Ultegra',
    right lever detents spacing differs .. but similar overall.


    How far the FD moves for the amount of cable pulled
    is a result of the leverages of the arm youtr cable is attached to
    moving the parallelogram, which moves the FD cage..
    apparently MTB and Road FD can vary, the 3 ka-thunk Indexing
    makes that more important
    important.
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    I have a set of Ultegra 8-speed bar end shifters on my road bike. They left friction shifter will barely do the double (Shimano 600 FD) before bottoming out at each end. I think if I ground off one of the internal stop tabs I could get it to shift a triple, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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    The left side is friction and will easily shift a triple.

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    I have used the durace bar ends with a 9 speed ultega triple set up..... very postive shifting and one of the easiest indexed set ups I have ever done (not that I've done a lot). I end up going to sti..... kept hitting my knee on the barend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
    I have a set of Ultegra 8-speed bar end shifters on my road bike. They left friction shifter will barely do the double (Shimano 600 FD) before bottoming out at each end. I think if I ground off one of the internal stop tabs I could get it to shift a triple, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
    That's very peculiar. I've used Sun Tour and Shimano bar end shifters on a variety of triple cranks and never came close to running out of travel.

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    That's all the travel they have. Whereas a DT front shifter can go almost almost 180 degrees. Do yours move more than that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
    IMG_1137.jpgIMG_1138.jpg

    That's all the travel they have. Whereas a DT front shifter can go almost almost 180 degrees. Do yours move more than that?
    I don't have bar end shifters on any of my current bikes but I did have them on a couple of triple crank bikes in the past with no travel problems. I believe mine did pivot a bit farther than the ones you show.

    I now have one bike using Shimano 8-speed dt shifters mounted on Kelly Take-Offs and the front shifter covers the 105 triple crank in less than 90° of swing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
    That's all the travel they have. Whereas a DT front shifter can go almost almost 180 degrees. Do yours move more than that?
    That doesn't seem right. I have a pair of Ultegra 8 speed bar ends. Here they are on my Miyata:

    You'll notice mine is installed and the cable is hooked up to an already adjusted FD. It could rotate further, but is limited by the high stop on the dérailleur.




    Might check that you have yours put together properly. If I recall, the washer with a square hole can be installed in multiple positions. If you pick the wrong one, you end up with what you've got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
    I'm looking for 9 speed indexed (at the cassette) Bar-end shifters. Do all versions shift triples? I'll be using a Tiagra front derailleur for triple. I'll also be using a Deore triple crankset.
    To answer your query, they all should have enough cable pull to shift a triple.
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    You can always get a set of velo-orange friction bar end shifters they work with all I have them on my LHT and my Big Dummy.
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    I once used a bar-end shift to shift a quad crankset (4 chainrings). Using it for a triple is very easy. All Shimano bar-end shifters that I've tried have had more range of movement than that shown in the photos posted by FastJake.

    Amongst the rumors about next year's new 11-speed Dura Ace group (9000 series), was the specification that even the mechanical version of the bar-end shifter for that group will be double or triple compatible (although there will not be any other triple-specific components in that group).

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    Barrettscv, As far as the FD shifter my Ultegra 8S bar end is the same as the D-A 9S bar end and I use it to shift a Shimano Alivio/Sugino triple on my touring bike without using the shifter's full range of travel.

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    I am amazed at all the rambling that goes on here when a simple question is asked. Will a Shimano 9 speed bar-end shifter work with a triple? Yes, their will be no issues whatsoever, put on and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannian View Post
    I am amazed at all the rambling that goes on here when a simple question is asked. Will a Shimano 9 speed bar-end shifter work with a triple? Yes, their will be no issues whatsoever, put on and ride.
    It's not rambling. It's confirmation that several posters have made it work or that one poster has had problems. Following your advice every question would have a one word reply: yes or no. Many time extra details are useful information.

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    Front shifter is friction. It will shift whatever you have the derailluer setup to shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeybikes View Post
    To answer your query, they all should have enough cable pull to shift a triple.
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