Wheelbuilding tension conundrum
01-09-12, 04:22 PM
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"Everybody needs to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer."
I'll second that....
I posted per the 110 kgf.. as I suspect the manufacturer would take a powder when a non professional builder is sending the complaint... with tensions well over their 'recommended' tension.
Find me a place on the net where the rim makers STATE these tension specs...........
I'll second that....
I posted per the 110 kgf.. as I suspect the manufacturer would take a powder when a non professional builder is sending the complaint... with tensions well over their 'recommended' tension.
Find me a place on the net where the rim makers STATE these tension specs...........
01-09-12, 07:28 PM
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"Everybody needs to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer."
I'll second that....
I posted per the 110 kgf.. as I suspect the manufacturer would take a powder when a non professional builder is sending the complaint... with tensions well over their 'recommended' tension.
Find me a place on the net where the rim makers STATE these tension specs...........
I'll second that....
I posted per the 110 kgf.. as I suspect the manufacturer would take a powder when a non professional builder is sending the complaint... with tensions well over their 'recommended' tension.
Find me a place on the net where the rim makers STATE these tension specs...........
01-10-12, 10:28 AM
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01-10-12, 10:41 AM
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01-10-12, 11:30 AM
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For sure.. and good luck with the 4th wheels (or 2nd really) I have been following the thread from the beginning and am now anxious to see how this one laces up and comes out. Keep us posted.
01-10-12, 11:56 AM
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By the time he's finished this one, he'll be a pro, open a business, create a spreadsheet, and post Youtube videos!
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01-10-12, 12:14 PM
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I completed the three good wheels with one attempt each, then the bad rim took four attempts, so I guess you could say I've done seven builds so far! 
I learned TONS in the process though. I definitely feel like I'm proficient at the basics now.
I've actually enjoyed the process although I don't see how anyone could make much money doing this. Even the in-house LBS wheelbuilding guru said he normally spends 2-4 hours on each wheel (seems very high for an "expert"). At what, $30-$40 per wheel that probably averages around $15 per hour. Getting it down to an hour could make it worthwhile though.
Go ahead and start sending me your build requests!
I learned TONS in the process though. I definitely feel like I'm proficient at the basics now.I've actually enjoyed the process although I don't see how anyone could make much money doing this. Even the in-house LBS wheelbuilding guru said he normally spends 2-4 hours on each wheel (seems very high for an "expert"). At what, $30-$40 per wheel that probably averages around $15 per hour. Getting it down to an hour could make it worthwhile though.
Go ahead and start sending me your build requests!
01-10-12, 10:17 PM
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By the way, I put in a plug to the mods for getting a dedicated "Wheelbuilding" forum under "Bicycle Mechanics". If you have an opinion on this and want to influence their decision feel free to share it here --> Wheelbuilding sub-forum under Bicycle Mechanics .
01-11-12, 10:07 AM
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By the way, I put in a plug to the mods for getting a dedicated "Wheelbuilding" forum under "Bicycle Mechanics". If you have an opinion on this and want to influence their decision feel free to share it here --> Wheelbuilding sub-forum under Bicycle Mechanics .
01-11-12, 10:39 AM
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Meh, it's just one huge thread with over 2,500 posts. Tons of good info in there I'm sure but good luck finding an answer to any specific question you have.
01-11-12, 02:26 PM
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01-11-12, 02:31 PM
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Anyone who routinely spends that much time on a build is no expert. I would consider 30 minutes for a front and 40 for a rear to be enough time in most cases, still under an hour for a high end wheel. I did wheelbuilding only as a part of being a mechanic but could lace most wheels to the point of all nipples with threads hidden in 10 minutes or so. My record for lacing a front, small flange wheel was six minutes.
01-18-12, 04:18 PM
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Final update...
I received the replacement rim yesterday. Laced it up, tensioned & trued. Nearly perfect. Wheel was complete with very even tension and true within .006" in about two hours. MUCH better than that last rim!
Thanks for all the help!
CASE CLOSED! :-)
I received the replacement rim yesterday. Laced it up, tensioned & trued. Nearly perfect. Wheel was complete with very even tension and true within .006" in about two hours. MUCH better than that last rim!
Thanks for all the help!
CASE CLOSED! :-)
01-18-12, 04:34 PM
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Good to hear...
So when will you open up a shop?
So when will you open up a shop?
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5. My all time favorite book is:
Kahane, Howard. Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric: The Use of Reason in Everyday Life
5000+ wheels built since 1984...
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2. I like anyone will comment in other areas.
3. I do not own the preexisting concepts of DISH and ERD.
4. I will provide information as I always have to others that I believe will help them protect themselves from unscrupulous mechanics.
5. My all time favorite book is:
Kahane, Howard. Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric: The Use of Reason in Everyday Life
01-19-12, 11:57 AM
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Good stuff blaronn. Glad to hear it was simply a defective rim.
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