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Old 12-31-11, 02:48 PM
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Bus-like public transportation that ran on rail tracks that were recessed into city streets. Sort of like San Francisco cable cars, but with overhead electrical power...
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
What's a "street car"? I live in the midwest.

I've wandered into some pretty deep ruts on some mountain bike trails, but I solve that problem either by stopping my bike or by falling over.


Falling over is good, too. I like to do that sometimes as well.
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Originally Posted by Chris Chicago
to confidently debunk it, I'd like to see a limbo contest of sorts. different width handlebars attempt to ride through an increasingly narrow space... with conga music playing
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvV8ugiSeaM
street car @ 0:55
limbo @ about 1:01
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Old 01-01-12, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LarDasse74
The same explanation used to be used when most mountain bikes had very narrow bars, but when people started riding the same trails with wide riser bars the myth was, IMHO, debunked.
I'm not so convinced. I used to ride with a bunch of guys who were all better than me every Saturday. There was one trail, however, that had a narrow space between two trees that I could always clean more smoothly than the other guys. When you get a compliment on your riding prowess from a hiker, you know that you did good.

I never had ultra narrow bars. The bars on my beater bike are 22" and that feels just right. That's a common stock width for truely flat bars but lots of riser bars are 24" wide. That's too wide for me. I tried to mimic my road bike handlebar width once (18" maybe?) and that was too narrow.
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Originally Posted by LarDasse74
The 'clearance' thing is the classical explanation to explain couriers cutting their bars... but I have a theory that if you are riding between a streetcar and a bus closer together than the width of your shoulders, you are in trouble regardless of your handlebars.

The same explanation used to be used when most mountain bikes had very narrow bars, but when people started riding the same trails with wide riser bars the myth was, IMHO, debunked.
About riding in traffic. You don't want to bee in a space more narrow than your shoulders width. That is true. However, having narrow handlebars allows you to manoeuvre more easily in such a tight space should anything unexpected happen (pothole, door opening etc). Narrower bar is helpful in such occasion. Wouldn't go more narrow than shoulder width myself, but cutting to 18" is OK for street use.

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Originally Posted by nashvillwill
So, I hear about many people shortening their flat bars. I'm a flat bar commuter and have wondered about doing this, but am having trouble seeing the advantage.

I know that many do it simply for aesthetics (hipster wannabe bike messengers), but is there any real gain from it?

My Globe Vienna 3 came with flat bars of a certain width. I've heard that the general rule of thumb is to have bars as wide as your shoulders. By this standard, I could probably shave about 1-1.5" off each side. But if I did, what would be the gain? The only thing I can guess is a more responsive "feel". Then again, I'm afraid it might "feel" less stable.

It seems like there would still be plenty of room for my shifters/brakes if I did so.

Has anyone done this? Any thoughts?
I have shortened my handlebars and I found it made a big difference. When you pedal, you're pulling on the handlebars and you can pull more effectively if your hands are straight ahead and your arms are parallel with the bike. Try moving in your brakes and shifters without cutting your bar and see if you notice a difference. Also, if you do shorten your bar but find you occasionally want the leverage that wider bars provide, then you can add bar ends (horns). I've done that and they can be useful when standing up while climbing hills.
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I've gone with cruiser bars. Its a pain to shorten flat bars and I absolutely hate them.
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Old 03-31-15, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nashvillwill
So, I hear about many people shortening their flat bars. I'm a flat bar commuter and have wondered about doing this, but am having trouble seeing the advantage.

I know that many do it simply for aesthetics (hipster wannabe bike messengers), but is there any real gain from it?

My Globe Vienna 3 came with flat bars of a certain width. I've heard that the general rule of thumb is to have bars as wide as your shoulders. By this standard, I could probably shave about 1-1.5" off each side. But if I did, what would be the gain? The only thing I can guess is a more responsive "feel". Then again, I'm afraid it might "feel" less stable.

It seems like there would still be plenty of room for my shifters/brakes if I did so.

Has anyone done this? Any thoughts?
I did this with my Giant Escape. To me, it really improves performance. I was able to move in the shifters and grips and still had room for a computer and light. I took off about two inches on both ends. I have a mirror stuck into the end of the bar on the left side. If you haven't done it yet, go for it.
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i have very wide bullmoose handlebar, i think it looks great & will look cool on a project bike i'm thinking of

also i fitted an alloy mongoose straight bar which is narrower than most straight bars i've come across. it has only a slight curve that i fitted to my diamondback mountain bike.. curved up...& with thick resilient grips..she looks very cool to me
whatever works i suppose
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Reasons to narrow flat bars:
- Better biomechanical position (try holding a pushup with your hands far apart versus at shoulder width)
- Easier to squeeze by things (signposts, parked cars, etc)
- Lighter (uh huh)

The first is why I do it. Or add bar ends to take up the extra width and provide more hand positions.
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Old 03-31-15, 11:26 PM
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Mountain bikes are moving to wide bars 760+mm and short stems. The wide bar improves leverage and control, at the expense of clearance.
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Old 03-31-15, 11:49 PM
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I forget, did anyone mention that narrow bars are better in crowded bike lockup racks and those on buses and trains?

21" is my absolute minimum, personally.

I have a 30.7" riser bar but I often find myself "choking up" on it, even when riding gnar -would cut it down some but will probably just sell it at some point.
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Old 04-01-15, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
How much leverage do you think that you need to turn your bike's fork?
It's not leverage-while-turning people are after, it's leverage-while-honking. For MTBs, wider bars started gaining popularity at the same time as triple cranks started losing popularity.
And if your typical ride holds plenty of short, high-intensity sections, then it does make more sense to muscle through on a higher gear than downshifting the front. And for that, a wider bar does serve a purpose.
Not a critical difference, but quite noticeable.
Although on the ride to/from the technical sections it does feel like you're riding ready to instantly hug someone...
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