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Old 02-07-12, 02:41 PM   #1
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OMG, cleats!

My cleats on the shoes gets loose sooo fast, after two days of cycling i had to tighten them up. I know that if i tighten it too tight it would damage the shoes. Any ideas why they got loose soo fast???
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Old 02-07-12, 02:52 PM   #2
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Old 02-07-12, 03:08 PM   #3
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it sounds to me like "i know that if i tighten it too tight it would damage the shoes" statement is causing you to stop well short of tightening them enough. i would suggest tightening them a little bit more than you are currently and repeat until they stay tight.

...or until you ruin your shoes.
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Old 02-07-12, 03:14 PM   #4
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Cleat bolts often come loose. The standard recommendation is a drop of Loctite 242 threadlocker on the bolts.
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Old 02-07-12, 03:14 PM   #5
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Put a little bit of Locktite blue threadlocker on the cleat screws and it will keep them from loosening. Be sure and use the Locktite blue and not one of the permanent ones.
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Though some imbed the threaded insert in the sole,
I sent a nice pair of Carnac Spud touring shoes
back for a refund when the screw did not come back out after thread lock,
the thread insert came loose from the sole instead.
The Shimano shoes have a steel plate that is threaded and Replaceable,
but the Insole comfort cries out for a better insole.
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I've yet to have cleats work loose. I've used SPD, SPD-SL and Look ARC. I install with a bit of grease on the threads and torque to spec.
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I've yet to have cleats work loose. I've used SPD, SPD-SL and Look ARC. I install with a bit of grease on the threads and torque to spec.
+1, properly tightened bolts won't come loose, nor will tightening properly damage the shoes.
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I've yet to have cleats work loose. I've used SPD, SPD-SL and Look ARC. I install with a bit of grease on the threads and torque to spec.
Same here. I use Speedplay Frogs and Shimano SPD pedalsand grease the threads well and tighten them to spec and none have ever loosened. In fact, the only problems I've ever had were from inadequate grease and having to drill out a bolt with the allen recess rounded out.
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I have Shimano 105s, and BG comp road shoes
i also feel this insanely annoying clicking-like feelings, but my cleats are tight, fully clipped in any ideas?
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I've yet to have cleats work loose. I've used SPD, SPD-SL and Look ARC. I install with a bit of grease on the threads and torque to spec.
Ditto: grease 'em up, tigthen them really, really tight with a normal allen key. I wouldn't use a big lever wrench but as tight as I can get them with an allen key does it.

Plus, in every shoe I've owned (just 4 or 5 pair, different manufacturers), what would be ruined with over tightening is the "T Nut" that sits inside the shoe between the inner sole (cardboard part under the insole) and the outer sole. I've replaced those several times, mostly not from overtightening, but undertightening where they worked around and stripped tht T nut that way. Easy to replace. But maybe all shoes don't have replacable T nuts?
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I've yet to have cleats work loose. I've used SPD, SPD-SL and Look ARC. I install with a bit of grease on the threads and torque to spec.
+1 on grease and proper torque. No issues here...
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Have you used the washers to make sure the bolts are secure?

Never had any major issues with my cleats.
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+1, properly tightened bolts won't come loose, nor will tightening properly damage the shoes.
I agree. Put a little "ooomph" into your screwdriver.
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Just a warning about Locktite. Some of them (not sure of which color) attack plastics, so find out first which one is safe for use around plastics before using them on your cleat bolts. Just the offgassing of the compound while it cures can harm plastics. Motorcyclist have found out the hard way when they find their ABS plastic farings literally crumbling to pieces overnight after using Lock tite on their mounting fasteners.

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I have never have a cleat come loose on me. I have had a lot of shoe over the years. I got into the habit of tightening them just right before the race. That was cleat and straps days. My modern day cleats have never come loose on me, but I do crank them down with a little of grease. Do crank em' down. You are not going to ruin your shoes. i never look at the bottom of my shoes until I need to change the cleats now.
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Another little tip you folk may find useful is to dribble a drop [or so] of candle wax into the hex head of the bolts after installation. It keeps dirt from being pressed into them which I find takes some effort to gouge out when time comes to unscrew 'em.
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I agree. Put a little "ooomph" into your screwdriver.
Failing that, replace the slot-head bolts with something you can use a proper wrench with.
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