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    Cassete-Lockring Removal without Cogs

    Hey Everybody!

    I think i really ****ed up:
    I’m building a nice single speed cyclocross bike and am using a surly ss spacer set and lockring. To try if it fits I quickly attached the lockring and spacer set to my Halo Hubs without attaching any Cogs and now i cant get it loose... Crap!

    Anybody got an Idea how i could solve the problem?

    Thanks for your Help!

    Greetings Andy

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    A pair of Channel-Lock pliers on whatever part of the cassette body you can grab ?
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    1. Cut a ring of old tube...
    2. Slide over assembly...

    ...then as Homebrew01 said....you have one shot at it each time...so cut several rings just in case...you'll figure out the tightness to use eventually...

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    hey guys!

    thanks for your quick answers!
    i tried the channel-lock-pliers but i can barely get a grip on the body itself... the spacers only leave aproximately 1mm of space to the over the hole casette... (enough for the missing cog).

    would you just try bending the the bloody spacer? another idea i had was getting two thin metal sticks and trying to clamp them down with 2 clamps... what you think any good?

    Jesus i hate myself...

    Greetings andy

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    Another thing to try is a bench vise...once again with rubber rings around the spacers/body...

    Or find larger channel-lock-pliers - they do come in 3-4 different sizes far as I can tell..

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    Cry and go to the lbs so they can laugh at you (and maybe help)?

    No seriously though. Best of luck. Sounds like a tough problem.
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    Dude, I hope you can laugh at yourself over this one, because I can guarantee you that everyone that reads this is going to.

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    What are the spacers made of ? If plastic, then maybe vise grips or channel-locks on the spacers, then they will bend enough to grab the body.
    How tightly did you install the lockring ?
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    yeah man i am although i am a bit pissed with myself.. haha my lbs will probably be roaring with laughter... ****

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    I'd say if nothing else just carefully cut away the spacers with a grinder and cut-off wheel or dremel or something. Then you can grab the hub with something that locks on and crank off the lockring.

    We all have occasional brain farts.

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    Hmmm. 2 pieces of shim stock, with some notches ground into them to grab the cassette body, then slip one on each side of the hub between the spacers, and grab with the pliers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thulsadoom View Post
    I'd say if nothing else just carefully cut away the spacers with a grinder and cut-off wheel or dremel or something. Then you can grab the hub with something that locks on and crank off the lockring.

    We all have occasional brain farts.
    Yup. Hacksaw might work too. Hold a spacer or 2 with the pliers, then cut diagonally through 1 or 2. Then pry them off so you can grab the body.
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    yeah guys that sounds awesome! i’ll try the shim stock and if that doesn’t work i’ll just refer to brute force. THE HACKSAW! Thanks for your help guys! Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    A pair of Channel-Lock pliers on whatever part of the cassette body you can grab ?
    +1,
    but wrap an old belt around the body, or spacers first to protect them from marring. If the spacers are rotating squeeze harder to flex them enough to grip the body.
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    problem solved with the good old hacksaw... scratched the hubs quite a bit though... life’s a *****...
    anyway the bikes for cyclocross so if it isn’t covered in mud, i’m not riding hard enough....

    closed

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    Glad you solved the problem. If anyone else has a similar problem, strap wrenches come in a variety of sizes including some that are quite a bit narrower than the ones meant for oil filters that you see in hardware stores.

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