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Old 12-28-04, 01:48 PM   #1
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Tire recommendations?

I have been doing homework on tires for about a week now and I am suffering from information overload.

I am rebuilding an early 80's steel frame and converting from 27" wheels to 700c. I found some sweet wheels on e-Bay, high profile Araya rims with Campy Record hubs, which came with some throwaway tires -- 700c x 25. First off, I am admittedly freaked out by the skinny tires. I'd been running 1.25" rubber on the 27's and the 25's look puny by comparison, but I am getting over that.

A few facts:

The rims measure 21mm outside width, 14 on the inside.

I'm a big guy, 6'1" and 240 pounds.

I ride just under 100 miles a week (on this bike), mostly in 35 - 50 mile chunks. I don't race (see height and weight above *g*) but will do one or two centuries and a couple of group rides a season. My main concerns are puncture-resistance and durability.

I'm inclined to avoid racing tires, anything with "lite" in the name and Continental products, which, as I learned on roadbikereview.com, apparently run under spec for width. Can anybody suggest a suitable tire for me? Oh, and I should I stick with 25's or go up to 28's? Thanks.
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Old 12-28-04, 01:53 PM   #2
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Specialized Armadillo All Condition tires are virtually bulletproof.
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Old 12-28-04, 02:08 PM   #3
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I am 6'7", 220 lbs, and run 700x23 Specialized Armadillo All Condition tires. They are tough tires. The Continental Gatorskins I had before them had good flat protection, but got their sidewalls ripped up on city streets.

For my next set I will probably get 700x25, and maybe take a look at 700x28.
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Old 12-29-04, 09:55 AM   #4
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Thanks. Do you know any other source for these tires besides buying direct from Specialized?
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Old 12-29-04, 10:03 AM   #5
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Thanks. Do you know any other source for these tires besides buying direct from Specialized?

Most any LBS that sells Specialized products.
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Old 12-29-04, 11:07 AM   #6
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well, for 26" (and i think theyre made for 700c too)
I ran a 1.5" specialized nimbus ex armadillo in the front on my tour from Seattle eventually to Santa Cruz... one flat in at least 2000 miles. And the tire is a nice, stable and round 1.5".
i wouldnt reccommend them in the back if you hit a little gravel in your ride because it is a slick
and i prefer a much grippier tire in the back. Ideal for me would be a cyclocross tire, but im running a Panaracer Fire-ex, which kicks nice.
i do not rememeber ever noticing price point or nashbar selling these Nimbus EX tires though.

anyway, i would buy this produckt again.
good luck

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Old 12-29-04, 11:38 AM   #7
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My favorite tire for riding long distance on tough roads (Ireland) is the Hutchison Pro Series 700x30. You can check out other Hutchison 700c road tires (with good prices) at http://www.totalbike.com/products/Ti...er/Hutchinson/.

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Conntinental gatorskins in 28s, use them on my tandem combined riders wts 350. good ride no flats
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I have had good luck with Armadillo 700Cx28s and with various Continentals. Note: although nominally the same size as the Specializeds, the Contis look alot thinner, more like 700Cx25s. I have also had Conti Ultra2000 700Cx23s on the Bianchi for a few years and have been very happy with them.
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I third or fourth or whatever the Specialize Armadillos. These are the most puncture resistent tire on the market. I use to live in the Mojave desert area of California and literally tore up over a dozen different supposely tough tires trying to find one that could at least hold up against a goathead attack; I averaged 5 flats a week and tires lasted from a minimium of 60 miles to a max of 750! I even tried Mr Tuffys, which worked to some degree but still had goatheads penetrate through those and they offered no sidewall protection; the tried adding Slime tubes (crappy tubes, don't work at all above 60-65psi) to the Mr Tuffy's; with this combo my flats got down to 2-3 flats a week-still too many. So then an LBS told me about the Armadillos; after the switch I had 2 flats in about 18,000 miles (5 sets of tires) the first was due to a faulty tube, and the second due to the rear tire was bald and showing cord when a small pebble worked it's way through a corded spot. Also the Armadillo has the toughest sidewalls in industry; these things will take a hit from almost anything and not even flinch.

These tires are heavy though at around 375grms for a 700x23; but I use the Specialize Turbo ultralight racing tube that weighs only 65grms so the total weigh is about 430grms; compare that to an average tire of 220grms, plus a 90grm tube, plus 100grms for a Mr Tuffy and your at 400grms and still not be as well protected and be left with little sidewall protection.

Use these Armadillos as your commuter/trainer/urban assualt tire, then if you decide to go racing switch to a lighter tire. If your a larger guy, like you said, then I would consider going up one size to 700x25 so you would have a bit more rubber on the ground for safer road handling. The larger size had less of a tendancy to follow groves and cracks on roads, they stop a bit quicker and handle a tad better especially on rough pavement. Also with the larger tires you can air down a bit for a more comfortable ride due to the larger air volumn (about 110psi in the rear and 100 on the front; I run 95 on the rear and 85 up front but I weigh less).
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FWIW, I get good mileage and handling out of Avocet FasGrip SL road tires, 700X25, the folding model without a Kevlar belt; I believe the same tire comes in a belted version, for added puncture resistance.
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Hi,
Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy 700x27c. Great tire. If you don't get a lot of sidewall punctures in your area; I don't see getting a sidewall with a
kevlar belt, when you have a much sweeter ride with a traditional sidewall.
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Continental Gator Skins - Best Value (IMO). They are now made in folding with Kevlar bead and weigh 230 grams instead of the 280 gram wire bead model. For around $30 ish each they are hard to beat.
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Couldn't find a size of Conti Gatorskins that was like my OEM Michelin Dynamic. Couldn't find decent Armadillo tire in my size either. I'm trying Michelin Transworld City tires in 700x32 (400+ gms) right now. Pretty narrow, probably more like my 700x28 Dynamics. They are $20 at REI and have a puncture belt. The think I like about them, aside from price, is that they have a center ridge and very deep grooves (1/8 -3/16") for moving water out as well as preventing flats because the glass/goathead will never have enough push from the road to get into the tire.

My one concern about them is they get small pebbles stuck in the grooves. I'll make a final decision on them after I get about 1000 miles on them.
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