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    nothing better Cead_tinne's Avatar
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    Please recommend a new rear wheel

    My Wife needs a new rear wheel. The old one was a 32 spoke wheel with Dura ace hubs, and CXP 33 rims.

    Does she need a 32 spoke wheel, or would she be better off with, say 28? She's a 115 Lbs


    If 32 spoke wheel is the best option, then how about this one? Or does anyone know of any better deals/value

    http://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/kit/SSFCEUYB






    Thanks again for everyone's patience and help!

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    Hub is probably fine...

    Dura Ace is Shimano top-of-the-line...CXP-33 is Mavic top of the line aero light weight racing clincher.

    If money is not an issue, have an LBS order a replacement CXP-33 rim and rebuild using 2.0/1.8/2.0 or 2.0/1.7/2.0 DT or Ritchey Logic spokes. Just make sure they:

    1. Achieve adequate tension - about 110 KGF drive side.
    2. Properly dish.
    3. Properly stress relieve - frequent hard squeezes or parallel spokes for two rotations each time during the build process - and once more at the end.

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    I've never been a fan of low spoke count wheels. The compromises in strength and longevity are not offset by the minimal reduction in weight and aerodynamic drag of a few spokes and nipples. Get another 32 (or 36!) spoke wheel with high-quality butted stainless spokes and brass nipples, stress-relieved and trued with uniform high spoke tension and she should be set for years of trouble-free riding. Your old D/A hub and freewheeel should have some value, don't just toss them.

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    If I may ask, what happened with her old wheel?

    CXP-33 is a very good rim. I have a set of those rims laced to Ultegra 6600 hubs with 32 spokes, and they've been perfect. And I weigh 215Ibs.

    I bought them assembled from Colorado cyclist too.

    I'll recommend the CXP-33 again, unless she does not like them for one reason or another.
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    These came stock on my Madone 4.7 http://bontrager.com/model/08253
    They're definitely not top of the line but they work. When I started, I weighed 185, and now I'm down to 155 lbs
    I have over 13,500 miles on them, with zero problems with the wheel bearings or freehub. And they stay true. I took it in at 5,000 and 10,000 miles and the wrench just had to give a quarter turn to a few spokes.
    And freehub is Shimano compatible. The wrench said the freehub is made by DT Swiss.

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    Yes I recommend a new rear wheel, also.

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    Buy a new rim and reuse the other parts.

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    As asked previously, why does she need a new wheel? If the rim is damaged, but the hub is good, I'd lace a new rim and spokes to that hub. It depends on the reasoning for wanting a "new" wheel.

    32 vs. 28 spokes? At 115# she could do with even less spokes than 28 on a good wheel if she's a "good" bike rider. No reason though to get a new wheel just for the 28 spoke option. Ain't enough weight and dollars saved to consider it.

    You've got some good wheelbuilders right there in Eugene. I'd have them inspect the old hub and just swap out rim and spokes. Heck send it to me. I'll build you a new wheel and take the Dura Ace hub for the labor bill!

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    I vote: have a new wheel built with the existing hub. Maybe get something more interesting for a rim like this:


    Any bike shop should be able to do this for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
    I vote: have a new wheel built with the existing hub. Maybe get something more interesting for a rim like this:


    Any bike shop should be able to do this for you.
    Those look like good rims, specially if it's from a respected manufacturer like DT.......but,.......Do they have to make their rim labels/logos sooooo BIG these days??!

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    pay attention...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    If I may ask, what happened with her old wheel?
    Quote Originally Posted by reddog3 View Post
    As asked previously, why does she need a new wheel?
    aftermath...
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    Bad crash? Hub should still be fine. Were it my wheel, I'd have the DA hub built up with a new CXP-33 rim as mrrabbit suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog3 View Post
    You've got some good wheelbuilders right there in Eugene. I'd have them inspect the old hub and just swap out rim and spokes.
    I did call a couple LBS about rebuilding the wheel. Life Cycle Bike Shop, my favorite LBS, said it would cost around $250 using a Mavic open pro. Also they wouldn't be able to get to until at least Thursday. Since it wasn't the wheel I wanted, and it was going to take that long i i decided to check out other options.

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    Let's see- Open Pro rim, $80- 32 DB spokes, $32- brass nipples, $3.20. Hub- free. That's a parts total of $115, and that's what you can buy them for everyday. That leaves $135 for labor. A bit steep I think.

    I wouldn't do Open Pro rims. Look at a $50 rim rim like Velocity, Kinlin, or a CXP 22, or Open Sport. All very good for the application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog3 View Post
    Let's see- Open Pro rim, $80- 32 DB spokes, $32- brass nipples, $3.20. Hub- free. That's a parts total of $115, and that's what you can buy them for everyday. That leaves $135 for labor. A bit steep I think.

    I wouldn't do Open Pro rims. Look at a $50 rim rim like Velocity, Kinlin, or a CXP 22, or Open Sport. All very good for the application.
    135.00 for roughly 1.5 hours of work...is a tad on the high side in my opinion...so I'm leaning toward you in agreement...

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    I have two sets of Mavic open sport 32 spoke 105 hub wheels.
    They are great.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-105-...item3f14bb179d
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cead_tinne View Post
    I did call a couple LBS about rebuilding the wheel. Life Cycle Bike Shop, my favorite LBS, said it would cost around $250 using a Mavic open pro. Also they wouldn't be able to get to until at least Thursday. Since it wasn't the wheel I wanted, and it was going to take that long i i decided to check out other options.
    Like learning how to do it yourself?
    Agreed, $250 is way too high for that rim spokes and labor.
    Another option if you're in a hurry - buy a pre-built wheel from the LBS and sell the DA hub for $100 on eBay.
    Last edited by DiabloScott; 04-17-12 at 10:59 AM.
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    Rebuild or new wheel are both fine options. If you go new, sell the hub on Ebay to get some money back.
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    rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Cead_tinne View Post
    I did call a couple LBS about rebuilding the wheel. Life Cycle Bike Shop, my favorite LBS, said it would cost around $250 using a Mavic open pro.
    Also they wouldn't be able to get to until at least Thursday.
    Since it wasn't the wheel I wanted, and it was going to take that long i i decided to check out other options.

    take the cassette off yourself.
    cut out the spokes yourself.
    find yourself a new "favourite" LBS.
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    As others have said, the price you were quoted is pathetic. My LBS charges a $30 standard labor fee to build a single wheel; they charge me less b/c I am slightly awesome.

    But, that's not why I am posting. Others have suggested some very good rim options, but i'd look into getting a rim that matches your front, and have the original DA hub built into that. I'm not sure how OCD you are, but I'd stare at the mismatched rims and wince every time I looked at the bike. We've all run mismatched wheelsets when we're using parts we've already got in the bin, but to order a *new* mismatched rim is entirely different.

    No mechanical reason not to go with a DT or Velocity rim, but this really is a concern for obsessive-types.

    -rob

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    $250 to rebuild wheel with existing hub leads me to believe this shop prefers to build with all new parts...and the quote covers that missing profit from not selling the hub. Just a hunch.

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