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Old 05-12-12, 03:56 PM   #1
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Terminating bare bicycle cable?

Does anybody have the capability to terminate bare bicycle cable with ferrules? Specifically these two types:
1) http://www.bicyclebuys.com/productimages/1007016.jpg
2) http://c771741.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/c...ycle-cable.jpg (one on the right)

It's for my car's window regular, and uses bicycle cable that's 1.50mm thick.
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Old 05-12-12, 04:07 PM   #2
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They just solder on. Try your local automotive brake and clutch place, no doubt any bike shop worth their salt can do it
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What does it mean to terminate cable with ferrules?

Btw, this is a ferrule. I don't see a ferrule in either of the pictures.

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Eh, there's a lot of definitions to it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrule

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They just solder on. Try your local automotive brake and clutch place, no doubt any bike shop worth their salt can do it
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use a cable bolt from an old side pull brake.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrule



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Then what are you talking about? The part that normally seats inside a brake lever? If so, why not just get a new cable? They're really cheap.
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You could use a fishing leader sleeve. Crimp and solder I would recommend.

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Not sure about soldering aluminium cable-condoms onto stainless-steel cable. Usually crimping them with pliers is all that's needed. I like cable-cutters for a sharper crimp, just don't squeeze so tight that it cuts through. Personally, I like to dip the ends in soldering-flux and use acid-core solder on the ends. Put enough on so that the ends are smooth perfectly rounded, but not so thick that it can't slide through the housing.
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Then what are you talking about? The part that normally seats inside a brake lever? If so, why not just get a new cable? They're really cheap.
Yeah, I can get a new cable but then I also need to terminate the free end with another one of these aluminum terminations. This cable needs to be double ended, something modern bicycles don't use since the brake caliper and derailleur use a clamp on the free end.

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Not sure about soldering aluminium cable-condoms onto stainless-steel cable. Usually crimping them with pliers is all that's needed. I like cable-cutters for a sharper crimp, just don't squeeze so tight that it cuts through. Personally, I like to dip the ends in soldering-flux and use acid-core solder on the ends. Put enough on so that the ends are smooth perfectly rounded, but not so thick that it can't slide through the housing.
Where would I buy a pack of these aluminum "cable-condoms"?
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I think I'd hit a motorcycle shop to add that to a cable.

Bicycle brake cables with one of those already on run $1-3 for the basic ones. You could just use one of those if they're long enough. Often brake cables will be two-ended so you'd have to cut the road end off.

Oh, by the way the first link is for shifter cables. They're oriented so that the cylinder is approx. concentric with the cable. The MTB style brake cable end has a cylinder whose centerline is perpendicular to the cable centerline. MTB style ends are considerably larger also.

(oops, didn't read a couple of posts there.) Too lazy to edit much. MC shop part stands, though

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google "knarp" It might fit your need. other wise do as Mr. Dan suggested.

Why don't you go to the junk yard and get a cable for your window.
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google "knarp" It might fit your need. other wise do as Mr. Dan suggested.

Why don't you go to the junk yard and get a cable for your window.
Was coming to suggest knarps myself.
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Where would I buy a pack of these aluminum "cable-condoms"?
I would just go to a shop you use regularly and ask for some cable-condoms. They should hand them out freely as you really only need 4-6 at a time. Any decent shop should support safe cycling. Be sure to get the smaller ones for the shifter cables and bigger ones for the brake-cables. Size does matter!

Or you can buy a bottle for yourself and a couple hundred friends:
Amazon - Nashbar Crimp-On Cable Ends
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Does anybody have the capability to terminate bare bicycle cable with ferrules? Specifically these two types:
1) http://www.bicyclebuys.com/productimages/1007016.jpg
2) http://c771741.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/c...ycle-cable.jpg (one on the right)

It's for my car's window regular, and uses bicycle cable that's 1.50mm thick.
I've used clamp-on ones successfully for custom motorcycle applications. Would be a good idea to use a little blue Loctite on the clamp screw:

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No way I'd trust my car window to crimp-on cable ends. It's a PITA to get to that stuff again.

DannoXYZ's set screw style ones in his last post would likely hold up well if it works with the interface your window mech has.
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The cable condoms are useless for this application.

IMO they're close enough to useless anyway. But then I'm the type to spurn anything that isn't entirely necessary, like dork disks...
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