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    stupid question: where do I find a tool to remove an old Campagnolo Record Crankset?

    Hello,

    this question might sound stupid but I am more of a collector than a mecanic. Even if removing a Crankset shouldn`t be too complicated.

    Where do I find a tool, and what exact tool do I need to remove an old Campagnolo Record Crankset?

    The ones I have don`t fit. The space between the nut and the threading inside of the crankset is too tight for my regular tools.

    Thank you in advanced for any help!

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    If it is not an Ultra Torque crankset, than the cranks are probably "self extracting". Using a 7mm hex head, loosen the center bolt until there is resistance. Continue to "unscrew" the center bolt through the resistance and the crank should extract.

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    Based on the description, it sounds like this crankset has 15mm bolts. If that's the case, a thin-walled 15mm 3/8"-drive socket will do the trick.

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    Which year Record crankset? These were produce for many decades and had different attachment & removal options and tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maym036 View Post
    Where do I find a tool, and what exact tool do I need to remove an old Campagnolo Record Crankset?

    The ones I have don`t fit. The space between the nut and the threading inside of the crankset is too tight for my regular tools.
    Pictures of both the crank and the tool you're attempting to use would be helpful, since "Record" cranks have come in several varieties over the years.

    Are you saying that your tool cannot reach the 15mm retaining bolts on the spindle? This often happens when using cheap sockets, as they have thicker walls than quality sockets and may not fit into the arm. A good quality socket (e.g. Craftsman, Snap-On, Proto, etc.) should solve this if this is in fact the problem. Once the retaining bolts and washers have been removed, a standard 22mm x 1mm square-taper extractor tool should get the arms off for you.

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    You need one of this ones...

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    +1 on ultraman's comment. The Euro/Campy size extractor means flipping the threaded collar around to the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
    Based on the description, it sounds like this crankset has 15mm bolts. If that's the case, a thin-walled 15mm 3/8"-drive socket will do the trick.
    I'll ditto this. The "standard" bolt takes a 14mm socket. Some old Campy Record bolts that I've seen take a 15mm socket, and there's darn little space for a socket in there. My Snap-On socket barely fits. I've heard several stories about Craftsman sockets fitting and not fitting- you may have to try a couple.

    The "correct" tool, however, it the Campagnolo #769 wrench:
    http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?...endorCode=CAMP

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    As another poster mentioned, a 15mm Thinwall socket wrench will do the trick (Standard 15mm wrenches don't fit). This was the shop tool of choice back in the Bronze Age when Campy used 15mm bolts.

    As Jeff Wills said the specific tool for the job was the #769 aka "peanut butter wrench" which did double duty as a crank bolt and track nut wrench. These are no longer made and the remaining stock is selling at prices vastly higher than a socket.

    I have OTOH- a few new #769's available to sell. If anyone is interested they can email me an offer via the Chain-L site.
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    I removed a couple of 15mm crank bolts from a old Italian Gipiemme crankset a few days ago.
    The tool that I used was a cheap 15mm (standard wall) socket which cost about a dollar, I used a grinder to grind down the outside wall on it so it would fit.

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    The really fun ones are the 16mm Zeus ones. What were they thinking?!

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    Suntour used 14 mm. They were thinking on being different than campagnolo, even thought they copy everything from them, even the tools.

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    I have all sorts of Cranks. From the very early ones to the 80`s. I will try to find a thin-walled 15 and see if it works.

    Thank you all for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
    The really fun ones are the 16mm Zeus ones. What were they thinking?!
    At least Stronglight provided more clearance for their 16mm bolts by using a 23.35mm extractor thread...

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    You can make a thin walled socket if you have a bench grinder !
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
    At least Stronglight provided more clearance for their 16mm bolts by using a 23.35mm extractor thread...
    ...although that's another "what were they thinking?!" nominee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Ultraman, what exactly is this tool? A Park CCP-22? CCP-44? Will a CWP-7 work? I have the same question as the original poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwingylee View Post
    Ultraman, what exactly is this tool? A Park CCP-22? CCP-44? Will a CWP-7 work? I have the same question as the original poster.
    ANY standard crank remover that you're likely to find will fit the crank OK, but the pusher pads come in 2 sizes, small for sq. taper cranks, and larger for the OS spindles like ISIS or octadrive.
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