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    Hole in saddle

    Not sure if you guys can help but I've had this bike about a week and I noticed a few days ago somehow I've got a small tear/hole in front of the saddle already. Is there a good way to repair this?

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    Depends on the saddle, so more info would definitely help.

    But in case it's a typical foam padded saddle covered with vinyl, then electrical makes a workable, but not beautiful repair.
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    It's the one here.
    http://www.gtbicycles.com/2012/bikes...gtr-series-3-0
    Not sure if this helps. I'm trying to find more information on the part. Looks like some sort of fake leather. I'm not sure what it is. Sorry don't know much about such materials. Perhaps vinyl.

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    You can get electricians vinyl tape in white , too..

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    I see, I figured electrical tape would be the simplest solution. Bummer, svelt looking bike with a bit of tape on it I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. Maybe I'll look at aftermarket saddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blargman View Post
    I see, I figured electrical tape would be the simplest solution. Bummer, svelt looking bike with a bit of tape on it I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. Maybe I'll look at aftermarket saddles.
    They do make colored electrical tape, and they also make better vinyl repair products. You can check in an auto store, or something like a swimming pool store, for alternatives. Some of them do a great job, and are much more permanent that electical tape would be.
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    You said you only had the bike for a week?.....was it bought new or is it used. If it is new, could it be a defect on the cover of the saddle you can also claim waranty on from the dealer? Unless you know you caused the hole in someway, getting a replacement through a warranty claim if it's a new bike can be the better solution instead of trying to repair it, which will never make it as good as new.

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    Yes if you bought it new a week ago go get a warranty claim. Nothing should break that fast.

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    Bike falls over an the saddle catches on something? been there , done that..

    Yea I do recall seeing Magic vinyl upholstery repair stuff adds on TV
    I think TV it was in color, so It couldn't be too long ago

    Gaffer's tape is cool stuff too, dense fabric..

    and 100 mile per hour tape.

    .. some Broken Hueys taped back together in 'Nam,
    enough to get back to base with that stuff..

    Might see if some of the Coasties have an end roll to donate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmvengy View Post
    Yes if you bought it new a week ago go get a warranty claim. Nothing should break that fast.
    BS.

    Things like tires, tubes, paint, handlebar tape, can be damaged very easily... THere is no warranty that covers a saddle that has been gouged with an exacto knife or a tire that is ridden through broken glass.

    All that being said, we don't know how the OP's saddle was damaged. These things happen, though.
    I have an old WTB saddle that came stock on my 1997 GT that I love and has been transferred from bike to bike ever since... but the cover is almost completely destroyed and I fear I may have to try to find a replacement soon. Vinyl saddle covers are a definite weak spot. Take heart in knowing that it does not affect performance. If you think about it, missing a tiny bit of vinyl actually makes your bike lighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarDasse74 View Post
    I have an old WTB saddle ..the cover is almost completely destroyed and I fear I may have to try to find a replacement soon.
    Reskinning a saddle is no big deal, I think I've posted about it here some time ago.

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    once I filled in a hole in a saddle using plasti-dip....

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    Any good upholstery shop will have a vinyl repair kit. They can get a close match to color and texture and the repair is heat set so the repair is permanent. If the user is skilled you probably won't be able to see the repair. They do make home use versions of the kits that use a regular clothes iron as the heat source, but results are variable and you need to practice a couple of times before taking it to something expensive.
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    I plan on taking it into the bike shop tomorrow to see what they have to say. I've been very careful with the bike. The only time it's been dropped was by one of the bike techs accidentally leaning it up wrong against the wall in the shop a few days ago. I almost think that's when it happened.

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    How to repair a damaged saddle

    First, don't use any tape. You will just wind up with a sticky and unsightly mess.

    Go to your local car parts store and get a Permatex Vinyl & Leather Repair Kit, either the basic 80902 Kit (without electrical heat iron) or the 81781 "Ultra" Kit (with heat iron) (http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...air-kit-detail).

    Clean your saddle well with soap and water.

    If there is somewhat sizable damage, use a product like Gear Aid Aquaseal by McNett (www.mcnett.com/gearaid/aquaseal#10110), a flexible urethane, as a filler. Trim down and smooth protruding edges with a razor blade; you don't want noticeable bumps in your saddle and you can fill depressions with the vinyl repair material.

    The Permatex kits come with seven common color compounds that can be mixed to your end color. My saddle was plain black vinyl which made things easier.

    Apply the Permatex adhesive to the damaged areas and when dry carefully apply the colored repair material. Don't overdo it, too little material is better than too much; you can always go back and add more. Place the textured transfer material over the patch and apply the heated iron. I have a Ryobi heat ***; heating the non-electric iron at the 500°F setting seemed to work fine, although instructions note that a cigarette lighter or a clothing iron can also be used. If you plan on doing a large number of repairs, the kit with the electrical heat iron may be preferable.

    Make sure the transfer material is completely cool before peeling it off; if it is not, you may have repair material smeared on the textured piece. Not to worry; let it cool and then use a fingernail to remove the material. If you don't it will stick, ruining your next patch job.

    I did a bit of sanding and forming of my patched areas to get them really smooth and formed properly and then gave my saddle several light coats of Dupli-Color Vinyl & Fabric Paint HVP106 Flat Black (www.duplicolor.com/products/vinylFabricCoating/); the paint is available in 14 colors.

    I had 15-20 tears and cracks in the vinyl of my 1994 German Army bicycle which clearly spent most of its military life in an outdoor bicycle rack. Additionally, someone applied wide tape to a cracked area on the top of the seat. The tape caused about a two by three inch area of the vinyl to actually be noticeably better -- less worn and faded -- than the surrounding area. A bit of very light sanding and the Vinyl & Fabric Paint blended all the repairs nicely.

    Here are "before" and "after" images of one of the damaged areas I repaired:

    Saddle Before small.jpg Saddle After small.jpg

    The Permatex Vinyl Repair Kit was $11.50, the Dupli-Color Vinyl Paint was $7.50, and the Aquaseal was $7.50.

    This was my first attempt at vinyl repair; it took about two hours. I'm sure with practice my results would be better but I'm happy with what I have. After all, my bicycle is not "restored", its original paint and fittings are "preserved" to be as close to the way it looked in military service as possible. As they say in the military vehicle hobby, it is "Motor Pool Ready", not "Restored".

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    Instead of electrical tape you could stop by a sign shop, tell them what you are doing, and see if they would give you a few square inches of black vinyl. The adhesive on sign vinyl doesn't break down with age or temperature changes. An intermediate calendared vinyl like Oracal 651 is what I would try.

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    What's the problem? You pay good money nowadays for saddles with holes in them - in fact you might want to enlarge it to get the same look.
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    I had a 1/4 inch tear which I effectively fixed with vinyl repair glop that I purchased at the 99 cent store. An auto repair store would have a similar product. It was a black SMP Hybrid saddle. The repair is visible if you look for it, otherwise it is not noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingo Blingo View Post
    I had a 1/4 inch tear which I effectively fixed with vinyl repair glop that I purchased at the 99 cent store.
    Sounds interesting. Do you remember the name of the product, by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtle Speed View Post
    Sounds interesting. Do you remember the name of the product, by any chance?
    The repair glop was not branded. I found it on the adhesives rack. It was displayed on a card and was packaged in a small toothpaste tube. I would be surprised if vinyl repair glop varies much. Your local hardware probably has something like it (but probably will cost about $4).

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