xkillemallx16

I have a focus cayo with internal brake routing. There are no internal guides but instead just two seperate holes on either side of the frame. I couldn't figure how to get the cables through (tried the vaccum technique also) so I put in an old brake cable with a bent end to try to fish it through. Needless to say, the bend was too far in and now that one's stuck in there.

So now I have two problems.

1. The old cable is stuck in there with a pretty significant bend that's not coming out. Trying to figure out how to get this cable out without having to have an inch long or two piece of cable stuck in there forever.
2. How to get the new cable through, once that's done.

Any advice?

oddjob2

Piano wire from the hardware store as a fish cable to get from one opening to another. Youy can probably use the PW to poke the cable twards the hole as well.

Retro Grouch 

I'm having trouble visualizing cables stuck in the frame such that they can't be pulled out. I can't help you with that part.

I've had good luck installing cables by positioning the bike frame so that the exit hole is straight down. Then I thread the new cable through the frame and snag it with something when I see it passing by the exit hole. Once I figure out how to position the bike frame it seldom takes me more than a minute or two to get the cable routed.

rithem

OH____ I MIS-read ---- remove fork and fish the cable out through the head tube ---- usually the top tube has a guide inside or at least ridley frames do ... whoops

FOR REAR AND FRONT D this applies: remove crankset and BB should be able to get cables out through bottom of down tube at BB shell, then you might as well take this opportunity to cable the bike. I keep leader cables around to snake old cables out then reverse new ones in on internally routed frames, I use tape to hold the 2 ends together but you've gotta go slow, if the tape fails you fail, then time to remove the BB again. I have a Ridley Noah I work on for a friend, I hate it for this reason. The price you pay for aero dynamics = high end mechanics good luck exercise patience and go slow.