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    Broken Carbon Fiber Frame - What to Do Now

    On Saturday I crashed my 2008 Bianchi C2C 928.

    I broke the carbon FSA handle bar, bunged up the right side shifter/brake lever and tweaked both wheels. I also have a 1"+ crack on the down tube of the frame just below the headset.

    Is this bike TOAST?

    I am thinking I should get a new bike. I loved the old one. It was equipped with Campy Chorus running gear and Campy Zonda wheelset. I like the more relaxed riding position of the C2C.

    Any thoughts on a replacement? The budget is fairly wide open as I am purchasing a health promotion device rather than a bike! I will be 64 in a couple months, but still enjoy getting out and riding.

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    Sounds like there was lot's of energy in that crash. From the post, I assume you're not toast. Did you really get off with nothing more than some road rash?

    Given the extent of damage I'd consider both the frame and fork toast. There are places that can repair or retube carbon frames, but I'd be concerned about unseen damage elsewhere.

    You probably can transfer most of the parts so no reason to give up the Chorus drive train, otherwise you're looking at an upgrade(?) to 11s. Good salesmanship BTW- promoting this as a health device right after a decent crash. I don't disagree with premise, but it's a good sell under the immediate circumstances.
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    Regarding replacements, there's various "endurance" road bikes out there, so test-ride some and see how you like them. Specialized Roubaix and Trek Domane (dough-mah-knee) are a couple that should be easy to find for test rides.

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    I've heard good things about Calfee's carbon repair service.
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    being a boatbuilder - you could most likely do a pretty good repair yourself.

    I would get another bike and fix the broken one.

    repair is done with carbon cloth, proper epoxy, vacuum bagging and heat.

    all of which you could do if you read up on it.

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    Probably can be repaired. If you really want a new one just buy a new bianchi frame and move the parts over. Then sell the frame for 50 bucks at ebay, probably somebody will buy it to get it fixed. Depends of your budget too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Probably can be repaired. If you really want a new one just buy a new bianchi frame and move the parts over. Then sell the frame for 50 bucks at ebay, probably somebody will buy it to get it fixed. Depends of your budget too.
    i will buy it for 50!!
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    Damm it i want the frame too

    Quote Originally Posted by puchfinnland View Post
    i will buy it for 50!!

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    Yea N+1 strip undamaged components, and replace the frame and those damaged parts.

    Those new Trek Domane offer an interesting wrinkle.. elastomer seat tube suspension.

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    I did walk away from the crash. I went head over heals and landed on the pavement. Very bruised and sore, but thankfully no broken bones. I was wearing my helmet as usual. I just caunght the left rear corner of the car with my right hand bar. Broke the tail light of the Jeep and dented the tail gate.

    I am probably going to buy a new bike and deal with the crashed bike during the winter months.

    I have found a few 2012 models in my size, but the 2013 models will be out soon, so I might wait for them since I do have other bikes to ride for the rest of the season.

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    If the 2012 models are on sale then get one of those. THere will be nothing in th new model year that makes the old model year less fun to ride, no matter what the manufacturers say.

    PS: Who's fault was the crash?

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    You might talk to these guys:

    http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/

    Although the damage to your frame sounds a lot worse, I sent them my Colnago EC after going down in a pile up which cracked the seat-stay wishbone. They did a clean repair and inspected the fork, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarDasse74 View Post
    If the 2012 models are on sale then get one of those. THere will be nothing in th new model year that makes the old model year less fun to ride, no matter what the manufacturers say.
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    No, the 2013s are worth waiting for. They meet the newest EPA standards and have more powerful, yet more fuel-efficient engines.
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    Carbon Frame Repair or Calfee's can fix it like new for you
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    Google or look in the phone book for carbon fiber repair, or an auto body shop may even be able to do it....a reputable one. Bike shops are probably VERY experienced in this and may be able to give you phone numbers of carbon repair places.

    Make sure you get a quote as the repair cost may warrant a new bicycle if it outweighs the benefit of repair, and if you have homeowners/home renters insurance, bicycles may be covered....so call them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN Bianchi View Post
    On Saturday I crashed my 2008 Bianchi C2C 928.

    I broke the carbon FSA handle bar, bunged up the right side shifter/brake lever and tweaked both wheels. I also have a 1"+ crack on the down tube of the frame just below the headset.

    Is this bike TOAST?

    I am thinking I should get a new bike. I loved the old one. It was equipped with Campy Chorus running gear and Campy Zonda wheelset. I like the more relaxed riding position of the C2C.

    Any thoughts on a replacement? The budget is fairly wide open as I am purchasing a health promotion device rather than a bike! I will be 64 in a couple months, but still enjoy getting out and riding.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/3K-Full-Carb...item4847006b63 There are a great many more similar deals. I have bought 4 CF frames from China and had NO problems with any of them. All arrived ahead of the time promised. You can get bars, fork, also. I haven't been that thrilled with a couple of the generic China CF seatposts, however.

    Don in Austin

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    I had a CF frame repaired --but it was just a cracked chainstay. I might be a little more wary of a downtube. But I checked out Calfee and they wanted $350 just to look at it --repairs may go up from there. I ended up getting it done for much less by a guy in Minneapolis. Excellent job too. I was considering doing it myself but it was a pretty high end bike and I decided to use someone with experience. I can dig up contact info if you're interested.
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    The problem with calfee is that you are paying for their prestige, not a bad thing but probably they are up to the hills with work too and thats why they are asking so much just to look at a frame. With something more you can get a new frame maybe.

    The problem with other repair guys is that some can do the job really well but they have really bad reviews, have read horrible stories in the forums with some of these repair places to the point of never get your frame back and go around the bushes big time. So if you want to repair it try to find a guy that actually have good reviews returning the item, good time to return the bike and pricing.

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    To let everybody know what has happened. I ordered a new 2013 Bianchi Infinito this week. It will be equipped with Campy Chorus just like my old bike. The wheels have been upgraded to Fulcrum Zeros.
    It should look something like this:


    Attachment 281891

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN Bianchi View Post
    To let everybody know what has happened. I ordered a new 2013 Bianchi Infinito this week. It will be equipped with Campy Chorus just like my old bike. The wheels have been upgraded to Fulcrum Zeros.
    It should look something like this:


    Attachment 281891
    I have a 2012 Bianchi Infinito with Campy Record 11V and Campy Eurus wheels. You are going to love yours.

    BTW, I have Fulcrum Zero Comp Ltd. Ed. on the Colnago. Great wheels!
    My current stable:

    1989 SLX Bottecchia (Campy Athena 11s)
    1999 Cannondale F400 mountain bike
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    wow, sounds good, took a while though, huh. who is happy now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
    ... Trek Domane (dough-mah-knee)
    'Dough-mah-nay' The way you say it's pronounced is Italian for 'tomorrow', and an Italian negative stereotype: "Hey Giuseppe, when are you going to have my bike built and ready to go?" "Domani." Trek got it wrong with their original pronounciation statement, but they've since corrected themselves. Clever to anagram Madone into a new model name; stupid, making it something no-one knows how to pronounce. "Hey, do you guys have the new dough-mane? Any with schram components?"

    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Those new Trek Domane offer an interesting wrinkle.. elastomer seat tube suspension.
    Definitely not elastomer suspension. Rather, a hard polymer de-coupling device that isolates the seat tube from the TT and seat stay junction. Allows for back and forth motion of the seat tube, which is uninterrupted from the BB to the seat post.

    Sorry to pick nits. OP, glad you got the new bike! What did you do with the old, damaged frame...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    'Dough-mah-nay'
    Sorry to pick nits. OP, glad you got the new bike! What did you do with the old, damaged frame...?
    I am looking at a few optoins.

    1. Buy a new frame and bars. A new 2013 Bianchi Infinito frame will coast about $2,100.
    This is the option i am leaning toward. The bike would be a spare.

    2. Repair the frame. There is a frame builder in Minneapolis that does carbon repairs.

    3. Sell it.

    The rear wheel is salvagable, the front wheel is questionable. If not I have another Campy front wheel hanging in the garage. The LBS is looking at them.

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