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Old 09-06-12, 09:28 AM
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After 6 months the mysterious 'tic' sound is revealed

For 6 months I had racked my brains trying to find the cause of a very annoying tic sound. I've looked EVERYWHERE. I took apart everything and put them back together. I've changed pedals, BB, brakes and what not. Still there. I gave up finally, but I knew it was coming from the BB somewhere.

Yesterday, I had to replace the new rack with the old original one because my father's bicycle needed one.

And Voila! No tic sound! Man, I lost so much time searching for the damn source of noise around the area where I could easily locate the stupid tick was coming from, and after all this time I just discovered by accident the actual source!

Crazy, crazy, I still can't believe it. So, add the rack to the long list of noise makers...

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I just hope that tic sound doesn't carry over to your dad's bike.
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Glad you found it. For future reference the 1st question you should ask yourself if any problem suddenly crops up is "What's different?" In other words, what changed between when it was fine and now. You said the "new" rack was the cause of the problem. If you installed it just before having a problem, you could have saved yourself 6 months of grief if only you asked "what's new?".

Often, friends have asked for my help with similar problems, and after going through the basic drill they'll finally say "Oh, by the way, I just had the .... fixed, but that couldn't have anything to do with this, could it?" It's cases like that that help me work on my self restraint.
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I am adding this to my sack of knowledge for the next time a stray click visits me.

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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Glad you found it. For future reference the 1st question you should ask yourself if any problem suddenly crops up is "What's different?" In other words, what changed between when it was fine and now. You said the "new" rack was the cause of the problem. If you installed it just before having a problem, you could have saved yourself 6 months of grief if only you asked "what's new?".

Often, friends have asked for my help with similar problems, and after going through the basic drill they'll finally say "Oh, by the way, I just had the .... fixed, but that couldn't have anything to do with this, could it?" It's cases like that that help me work on my self restraint.
The guy just had a "what's different" learning experience,

...and you piped in just to give him a "what's different" lesson?

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My Brooks saddle clicks every once in a while. Just a bit of profide on the metal part, and it goes away for a long time.
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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
The guy just had a "what's different" learning experience,

...and you piped in just to give him a "what's different" lesson?

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Yes, I did, because there was nothing in his post that indicated he'd connected the dots to asking "what's new" in the future, and mainly because this case could be an object lesson to all the others who might read it, and spare themselves some wasted time.

In any case, I'm sure that if the OP felt I was rubbing salt in his wound, he could have spoken up for himself without your help.
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His post and experience spoke for itself...

...and yet you felt a "need" to hop in and explain it to everyone. You couldn't leave it alone?

Are you implying that posters around you are slow, non-observing, stupid, unable to comprehend written English in the literal - much less the abstract?

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FBinNY, I could hear the sound coming from the pedals or BB so the possibility that the new rack would produce any kind of noise was out of the question.

I wouldn't mind a squeeking or a click, but that tick sound was driving me crazy!
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Originally Posted by MightyLegnano
FBinNY, I could hear the sound coming from the pedals or BB so the possibility that the new rack would produce any kind of noise was out of the question.

I wouldn't mind a squeeking or a click, but that tick sound was driving me crazy!
Was this rack the kind with the flip-up/flip-down spring loaded clasp for holding a few thin items in place on top?

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
Was this rack the kind with the flip-up/flip-down spring loaded clasp for holding a few thin items in place on top?

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Yes! Why?
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Originally Posted by MightyLegnano
Yes! Why?
Perhaps all it was was a worn out spring that allowed the clasp bar to rattle a teeny bit while riding.

Usually though, it's more than a "tic". More like a "tic" "tic" "tic" "t-t-t-t-t-tic" "tic"...

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
Perhaps all it was was a worn out spring that allowed the clasp bar to rattle a teeny bit while riding.

Usually though, it's more than a "tic". More like a "tic" "tic" "tic" "t-t-t-t-t-tic" "tic"...

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
His post and experience spoke for itself...

...and yet you felt a "need" to hop in and explain it to everyone. You couldn't leave it alone?

Are you implying that posters around you are slow, non-observing, stupid, unable to comprehend written English in the literal - much less the abstract?

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Oh, if only everyone were as smart, all knowing and courteous as you are. I kowtow to your Majesty and thank the holy spirits that we have you here to say what's appropriate and what isn't. I'll be sure to PM you every one of my future posts for approval in advance, before I sully the forum with unnecessary, redundant posts and/or unproven assertions.

Thank you for your guidance, and may all your future dealings be with people as enlightened as yourself.
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This is beginning to look like stalking. I guess I'll be a target as well, as I often explain troubleshooting or mechanical concepts as well when I feel that both the OP and others can benefit from it. Rabbit, I find it ironic that you should object to such a thing when you often do the same thing when it comes to wheels.
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I get a tick or creak coming from the bolt attachments under my saddle. I tighten them until I'm afraid I'll strip the threads. That quiets it for a while. Specialized Toupe Expert 143.
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I get a tick or creak coming from the bolt attachments under my saddle. I tighten them until I'm afraid I'll strip the threads. That quiets it for a while. Specialized Toupe Expert 143.
Oh please don't remind me of the saddle! The damn thing keeps sliding forward even after some brutal tightening.
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Originally Posted by cny-bikeman
This is beginning to look like stalking. I guess I'll be a target as well, as I often explain troubleshooting or mechanical concepts as well when I feel that both the OP and others can benefit from it. Rabbit, I find it ironic that you should object to such a thing when you often do the same thing when it comes to wheels.

I correct things...dish and ERD are a couple examples...folks confuse two types of dish - and state ERD as something static.

Regurgitating something someone else has already stated clearly - and doing so in a manner that it's YOU teaching everyone the lesson already stated is something else...

Ego perhaps?

Kinda like the need to state something in a meeting word for word that someone else has already stated - because you think YOU should be the one who says it?

Once again, I don't know everything, I for the most part stick to wheel related threads...I don't feel a need to have word in every thread in Bicycle Mechanics.

But when I think that someone else does - even when the obvious has already been stated - I'm going to say something.

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mrrabbit, you come off quite rude. FBinNY was simply stating that the OP should've asked "what's new/different?" to solve it when he/she first noticed it. He didn't say it in a condescending manner, he was giving him/her advice for if another sound creeps up.

Also, springs don't simply wear out, afaik.
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mrrabbit, you come off quite rude. FBinNY was simply stating that the OP should've asked "what's new/different?" to solve it when he/she first noticed it. He didn't say it in a condescending manner, he was giving him/her advice for if another sound creeps up.

Also, springs don't simply wear out, afaik.
Go back and read the very first post...

A congrats was good enough...and one's own experience. Not a teaching lesson...that was already done.

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Go back and read the very first post...

A congrats was good enough...and one's own experience. Not a teaching lesson...that was already done.

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OP didn't say he checked the new rack to see if it was the problem first (or even at all).
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OP didn't say he checked the new rack to see if it was the problem first (or even at all).
Problem = For 6 months I had racked my brains trying to find the cause of a very annoying tic sound.

Change = Yesterday, I had to replace the new rack with the old original one because my father's bicycle needed one.

Result = And Voila! No tic sound!


Bike_Boy's response was pretty humorous....

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Originally Posted by MightyLegnano
I wouldn't mind a squeeking or a click, but that tick sound was driving me crazy!
What's the difference between a "tick" and a "click"?
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What's the difference between a "tick" and a "click"?
A click is 3.2x as loud and shows twice the movement as a tick.
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