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Old 09-10-12, 09:30 PM   #1
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Need Expert Advice Appraising a Custom Bike I'm Thinking About Buying!

Please excuse my posting here - I didn't know which thread to post in for advice!

Here's the Craigslist description for the bike I'm looking at:

"Specialized Sirrus, 53cm. Paint is good except for one small dent. New front Shimano R500 wheel and hub, it has 20 aero spokes, new rear Weinnman SP77 wheel and hub. Both wheels have new tubes and 700x25 Strada tires, Shimano 600 group, like new calipers and derailleurs, New Ritchey chainrings, new chain, cables, brake pads, RaceFace stem, bar end shifters, Bontrager seat. Looks and rides nice. asking $450, it is worth alot more just for parts, gotta sell for rent."



I saw the bike this evening - the frame is sturdy but scuffed and worn, with a minor ding in the top tube. The rest of the bike parts are new, as described.

My question is: Is the bike worth $450, and if not what would you say it's worth?

Thanks so much for any help you can offer!
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Old 09-10-12, 09:45 PM   #2
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I get grief for this stance, so take it for what it's worth. I see too many instances where people buy used bikes, only to find hidden problems, or need to sink in more dough and end up spending more than they expected, often more than the final bike is worth.

This is not a blanket statement that used bikes are a losing proposition, far from it, there are great deals to be had, especially by those whe can do their own work bringing them up to snuff.

On paper this looks like might be a good deal, but strongly suggest you bring a knowledgeable friend with you when you buy. He can look for hidden warning signs, and/or give you a good idea of what this bike will actually cost when it's in riding condition.
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My question is: What is custom about this bike?

What i see is a lot of changed parts. Nothing specific to one person but a lot of covering up wear and tear perhaps, as well as some one's hopes for a really nice bike. I doubt the parts would be resaleable for the cost. Andy.
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My question is: What is custom about this bike?

What i see is a lot of changed parts. Nothing specific to one person but a lot of covering up wear and tear perhaps, as well as some one's hopes for a really nice bike. I doubt the parts would be resaleable for the cost. Andy.
Well, it's not Stock. In any case even if it were a custom (made to measure) bike, there's no advantage to the 2nd buyer, maybe even could be a disadvantage if it were built for someone with different proportions.
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No, it's not worth $450. I sold and essentially new Giant OCR1 (my wife's) a few years ago for $600 - all 105 equipped with less than 1000 miles. What year do you think that bike is (as in do some research).
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To clarify: 'Custom', as it applies to bikes, usually refers to a bike that was built entirely with an individual in mind - frame included. You can also have a 'custom assembled' bike built with a specific selection of parts on a stock manufactured frame, or a bike that has been 'customized', but neither of these is often referred to as a 'custom' bike.

While the one you posted looks to be a pretty nice bike, there are some weird things about it: First, it appears to have older friction-only shifters - this is not a bad thing necessarily, but a little bit odd. Also, the chain appears to be too long, which makes me question the skill and knowledge of the person who built it.

Also, there is mention of a dent, but I don't see it in the pics. That could be a deal breaker depending on the size and location.

However, if the dent is not serious, and the bike fits you (I would guess this is a 56 or 58 cm bike for someone between 5'8" and maybe 6'... maybe a little more of little less) then it is not too bad a deal.

Edit: Also - it is not a '600 group' - it has 600 brakes and derailleurs, which does not make up a whole 'group'. It has lower quality wheels and hubs, Suntour friction shifters, a mystery crankset and (I think) brake levers.

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Thanks FB, I think that's great advice. I'm decent at eyeing quality, as I've broken down on enough bikes, enough times,and had to do the repairs myself. This bike is solid.

I'm just not sure if $450 is an inflated asking price, as I have no ability to gauge fancier components....
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Look for something as close to stock as possible and ridden as little as possible. In my long experience of translating C-list ads, the phrase "Paint is good" means lots of nicks & dings. When a lot of parts have been changed out, the seller wants to recoup the cost of the parts. The price depends on where you live. Bet you can do better for less or the same $$$.

I'd look for a bike ad "Never ride, need room".
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I'm just not sure if $450 is an inflated asking price, as I have no ability to gauge fancier components....
IMHO, $450 is way over what I'd pay for a bike of that age with those components. The components are anything but fancy. Functional yes but fancy, not a chance. Maybe $200 is reasonable unless there is a hidden real problem.
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IMHO, $450 is way over what I'd pay for a bike of that age with those components. The components are anything but fancy. Functional yes but fancy, not a chance. Maybe $200 is reasonable unless there is a hidden real problem.
i would have to agree...that bike looks very old. not worth it...he probably got the r500 wheel from a bike he just bought. That wheel is very generic sort of speak. I would probably pay at most $250 for it.
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450 is too much IMO.
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There's nothing on that bike that gets me excited. If really "ready to ride", maybe $200 - keep as a backup loaner bike for a friend to ride, or for foul weather. $450? No if you held a gun to me.

$450 can get you modern brifters and a matching groupset. Especially true if the bike was purchased and never ridden, as Merkel aptly noted. Pass. Run away.
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Common make, model that is okay. Not vintage/collector, not modern/brifter, stuck in that "just an old bike" no-mans-land. Mismatched wheels. A decent drivetrain but all other components are a mish-mash of mediocre brands (Bontrager) and no-name parts. $200 without the dented top tube. A dent hurts value a lot. Without seeing the dent, value maybe $150 at best.
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