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Old 10-14-12, 11:59 AM
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upgrading crank (metric conversions)

My 1984 crank measures 6 3/4". that converts to 171.45 mm.
I guess I want a 175mm crank. That's only 1/8th inch longer.

I'm going with a Deore XT silver crank for the touring bike.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Shimano-...item2a175e4d0c

Have I got this figured right?
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Maybe look inside the crank arm and read the length?

Did you measure center to center of the "holes".
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Get the appropriate BB to go with the Crankset .. Crank designs have different relationships to
what spindle they need ..

though the newer External BB setups eliminate/simplify the choice ,
by fitting the spindle tube permanantly to the right crank arm

things made using the metric system will usually use whole MM.

the Decimal point Metric sizes are equivalents for Fractional sized things

frame tubes , Quill stems , and other international standard components,

now that the ,( metaphoric) , break away French exclusivity has been brought back,
into the 'peloton', by the overwhelming numbers of bikes
and component parts, made in the far east.

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Yes, if you want a longer crank, 175 is the next size up. Otherwise the standard crank corresponding to the 6-3/4" size is 170mm.
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WABAC Sugino did have a 171 crank arm, and stamped it on the back of the crank arm.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Maybe look inside the crank arm and read the length?

Did you measure center to center of the "holes".
yes I measuerd correctly.

Originally Posted by fietsbob
WABAC Sugino did have a 171crank arm, and stamped it on the back of the crank arm.
The 1984 Miyata 610 specs show it's a Sugino.
the 1000 was metric and the 610 had American sizes.
Maybe that was thier way to convert to inches.

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For a crank of that era, it is almost certainly 170 mm. These days the next longer size available on higher-line cranks is 172.5 mm and 175 mm is commonly available on the entire range of crank models.
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I just went back to the basement and looked for markings. it's a 170.
5mm equals a fifth of an inch. (0.19685"). I think I will still go with the 175
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Originally Posted by HillRider
For a crank of that era, it is almost certainly 170 mm.
Sugino in particular had a fondness for issuing 171mm cranks.
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Why do a conversion when you can buy a proper meter stick for $5 and remove room for error?
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Originally Posted by pmt
Why do a conversion when you can buy a proper meter stick for $5 and remove room for error?
Miyata 610s did not have metric measurements like the Miyata 1000.
I assumed it wasn't metric.
I have no need or desire for a metric measuring tape and if I wanted one, it would have been an hour round trip to get one.
I later found the markings on the crank that showed the size. We got it all figured out without driving to town.
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Originally Posted by pmt
Why do a conversion when you can buy a proper meter stick for $5 and remove room for error?
Because some people DON'T struggle with arithmetic?
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Because some people DON'T struggle with arithmetic?
You don't even need arithmetic.

You obviously have a computer connected to the internet.

Enter "6-3/4 inches in millimeters" or a similar phrase into your search engine and you'll have answer faster than you can dig up a meter stick.
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Originally Posted by Pinkelephant64
Miyata 610s did not have metric measurements like the Miyata 1000.
I assumed it wasn't metric.
I have no need or desire for a metric measuring tape and if I wanted one, it would have been an hour round trip to get one.
I later found the markings on the crank that showed the size. We got it all figured out without driving to town.
Miyata's were ALL built with METRIC measurements. 5M x .080 for the bosses, 170 & 175 MM crank arms, 126 & 130 MM spacing in the rear.

Whether it was an Eighty, One Hundred, Nine Twelve, Ridge Runner or AlumiCross... they were built METRIC.

How do I know? I've been to the FACTORY. NO yard sticks, inch rulers, or fractional calipers there.
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Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench
Miyata's were ALL built with METRIC measurements. .... they were built METRIC.

How do I know? I've been to the FACTORY. NO yard sticks, inch rulers, or fractional calipers there.
I guess you missed the 1.370x24tpi BSC bottom bracket shells, and the 1"x24tpi fork steerers and headsets. or the 9/16x20tpi pedals.

Plus all the tubing is inch sized 1", 1-1/8" 1-1/4" or larger, but all inch diameters.

Maybe they didn't have inch measurement tools, but their suppliers sure did.
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Fine. point made.
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the frame sizes, the wheel sizes on the 610 was not sold in metric sizes, but the 1000 sizes were all sold in metric.
I assume they converted those measurments to metric at the plant. that would probably be the reason there is a 171 crank out there.
I have needed a metric measuring tape exactly one time now in 48 years. I will most likely be dead before I need one again.
But the missed point was that I THOUGHT it wasn't metric. I was wrong.
If I knew everything, I wouldn't be here asking for help. I haven't tightened a bolt on a bicycle in 25 years. I'm trying to catch up on new tech.
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