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Old 09-27-12, 09:05 AM   #1
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What would you tell a person to read (magz, books, web) if they want to know more about the differences in parts?

Things like how to find durable wheels, trade offs between different shifters, name of the old style brake lever that let you brake when your not in the drop, electronic goodies etc.

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Have them look up "brake lever" rather than "break lever" for starts.
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If they want to know more than you ever wanted to know about derailleurs "The Dancing Chain" may be a good place to start.
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Not meaning to talk down to you here, but let's be real. Here we are in the age of the internet, and if someone can't do a basic search for something like bicycle magazines, or specific bike parts, or bicycle maintenance, there's no point in asking people to give them a bibliography listing stuff they're not going to read anyway.

If you or a friend are truly interested, you can use some initiative, and do some basic research for yourself.

Afterward, if you have specific questions, feel free to come back here for help, but it doesn't make sense to ask others to do what you can for yourself.
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Not meaning to talk down to you here, but let's be real. Here we are in the age of the internet, and if someone can't do a basic search for something like bicycle magazines, or specific bike parts, or bicycle maintenance, there's no point in asking people to give them a bibliography listing stuff they're not going to read anyway.

If you or a friend are truly interested, you can use some initiative, and do some basic research for yourself.

Afterward, if you have specific questions, feel free to come back here for help, but it doesn't make sense to ask others to do what you can for yourself.

Sorry I probably wasn't clear my problem is I have the specs for these parts, but it isn't telling me the difference. Is it mostly just weight and durablity? Like looking at specs for a tiagra vs sorento. I'll read further I thought perhaps there was something going over how to interpret them.
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Sorry I probably wasn't clear my problem is I have the specs for these parts, but it isn't telling me the difference. Is it mostly just weight and durablity? Like looking at specs for a tiagra vs sorento. I'll read further I thought perhaps there was something going over how to interpret them.
That's a better question.

I'm not familiar enough with both these groups to give you a definitive answer on the differences, but generally more money gets you better components early on. After you reach mid-level stuff more money gets you lighter weight.

You also asked about dual position braking. Your best bet in this regard are separate in-line brake levers. The cable is routed from the main brake lever or shift/brake lever, under the tape to a second in-line at lever the top of the bar, then on to the brake. This gives you 2 quality working levers either of which can effectively stop the bike. Here's more info about these from one source. A quick search will bring up more links.

Years ago there were brake levers with extensions for braking from the tops, but the extensions were so flexible that stopping the bike from the top position was problematic. I don't know if anybody has resurrected this concept recently, but even so, it would still have the same problems.
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Thanks that narrows down which numbers to compare. Yes, I had that old brake extentions that both went to the same cable. I did have to adjust the tension fairly frequently. I was wonderig why they went out of favor.
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Not meaning to talk down to you here, but let's be real. Here we are in the age of the internet, and if someone can't do a basic search for something like bicycle magazines, or specific bike parts, or bicycle maintenance, there's no point in asking people to give them a bibliography listing stuff they're not going to read anyway.

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Afterward, if you have specific questions, feel free to come back here for help, but it doesn't make sense to ask others to do what you can for yourself.
Great, now I gave you my illness of abrasiveness I caught today. We're both in the schiter around here now!!
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Great, now I gave you my illness of abrasiveness I caught today. We're both in the schiter around here now!!
Nah! I've always been abrasive. (see the last line below my signature).
I just try to hide it with silk gloves.

Anyway, my post elicited his real question and I was able to post a helpful response later.

BTW- it might be a generational thing. I grew up in the era that when you asked a question you were told where the library was.
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I grew up in the era that when you asked a question you were told where the library was.
...rather than in the current younger generation, some of whom expect their question to be magically understood and answered in spite of poor spelling, grammar, terminology and a general lack of context.

I actually think some ask questions in the BF that they could easily have answered for themselves with a Google search because they think there's a simple answer if someone knows enough - when it's actually the opposite. If you know enough there are few simple answers; if you don't there are lots of them - mostly wrong.
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...rather than in the current younger generation, some of whom expect their question to be magically understood
and answered in spite of poor spelling, grammar, terminology and a general lack of context.

I actually think some ask questions in the BF that they could easily have answered for themselves with a Google search because they think there's a simple answer if someone knows enough - when it's actually the opposite. If you know enough there are few simple answers; if you don't there are lots of them - mostly wrong.
I sure wish you guys and Mr Bunny could be as sweet as I am on here..................

Must be a generational thing................................you crabby guys are all old.
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Must be a generational thing................................you crabby guys are all old.
When you're young you need to act all "sweet" so you can get the girls and get promotions at work, when your old you ain't going to get either so you might as well be yourself and have fun being a crab you were mean't to be.
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When you're young you need to act all "sweet" so you can get the girls and get promotions at work, when your old you ain't going to get either so you might as well be yourself and have fun being a crab you were mean't to be.
There's that, plus I've always felt that we're all born with a finite amount of patience, and people wear it away over time.

I've found that when you get slightly crabby people call you a crab (or worse). But if you become thoroughly crabby, and can do so with some flair, then they say you're eccentric, which is an improvement.
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There's that, plus I've always felt that we're all born with a finite amount of patience, and people wear it away over time.

I've found that when you get slightly crabby people call you a crab (or worse). But if you become thoroughly crabby, and can do so with some flair, then they say you're eccentric, which is an improvement.
Curmudgeonly...........................................sounds kind of elegant, does it not ?
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