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    Chain Broke on Sturmey-Archer Indicator

    Dear Folks. I have a GLIDER 3 speed bicycle that was purchased about 1962 from the T.Eaton Co. in Montreal Quebec. The description of the bike is MODEL GSMO 1022GENTS 23 inch AW FIRE RED MACHINE NO'S 32954. The indicator chain has just broken. I have the original Sturmey-Archer parts manual Sturmey-Archer-low.jpg that shows two indicators. One is part no K504Z indicator for short axle (K601Z). The other part no is K504AZ indicator for long axle (K601AZ).

    Has anyone tried repairing the tiny chain? I thought of trying to wire the chain ends together but thought they might stretch or catch on the axle nut. Then I thought of drilling out the little connector pin, shortening the chain and using a finishing nail to reconnect the pieces. I would then need to peen the end of the nail.

    Any advice or experience would be appreciated.

    P.S. I have also sent off a note to <info@sunraceusa.com> to see about replacement parts.

    Thanks, Grouseman

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    just get a new one, the same length of solid rod piece..

    if you are skilled enough maybe a jury rig, re riveting is possible .

    IF you have no LBS,Harris Cycles can ship Sturmey parts..
    several others too.. .. SJS .co.UK world wide

    but since you have the computer,
    and not in the outback with just a rock and a rusty nail.
    just get the part.
    Last edited by fietsbob; 10-30-12 at 09:55 AM.

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    They are readily available, so there's no need to bodge a repair. SJS cycles or Harris Cyclery are, as Fietsbob says, your best bet.

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    Thanks for the replies. I went on the Harris Cycle website and they have a minimum order of $50 for Canada plus $24 shipping which is way to much for a part that starts off at $7.95. I also checked out SJS Cycle and it would cost 10.39 British pounds, whatever that is in Canadian dollars (on par with US dollar). Does anyone know of a Canadian distributor for these kind of parts? Trying to drill out the chain and rivet it back together is looking more and more attractive.

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    Measure the rod from tip to tip. If I have one the right length, which I most likely do, I'll send it to you. It will be a week or so until I can confirm whether I have it or not as I'm on the road.
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    Look on E Bay for it, too.

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    How aboot call a Bike shop. in the Province capital or largest city .. Toronto, Edmonton , Etc.
    they can mail one in an envelope,, quote the CC# over the phone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airburst View Post
    They are readily available, so there's no need to bodge a repair. SJS cycles or Harris Cyclery are, as Fietsbob says, your best bet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    Measure the rod from tip to tip. If I have one the right length, which I most likely do, I'll send it to you.
    Even an indicator rod of the wrong length will work, although it makes adjustment a bit trickier as you won't be able to simply index off the end of the rod.

    The only time I'd consider cobbling the chain back together is for an older hub using the two-piece indicator rods that are no longer in production.

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    Hi Folks. Thanks to Dan and Zebede for the kind and generous offer but I have some really good news. I tried a different bike shop today and was surprised that they had some of the indicators. They had the Mark II for only $5 so I bought it. The original broken indicator was a shorter Mark I but the longer Mark II works just fine. So just for the challenge I took the original broken chain and drilled out the connecting pins, threw away the broken link, and put it all back together with a peened finishing nail. I will keep it for a spare. Hard to believe that parts for my 50 year old bike are still available. Sturmey-Archer sure built things to last.

    Thanks again for all the advice, Grouseman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grouseman View Post
    Hard to believe that parts for my 50 year old bike are still available. Sturmey-Archer sure built things to last.
    The Sturmey-Archer AW hub has been in production since 1936 with only minimal design changes over the years. If you take care of them, they'll outlast you.

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    I did it for a friend making the rivet out of a nail. Otherwise those chains have been available cheaply on the US Amazon, with Niagara Cycle Works being one of the vendors. I am not sure how the sales to the Canadian side work for either of them.

    P.S. Oops, sorry, I did not notice that you solved the problem already.
    Last edited by 2_i; 11-01-12 at 08:16 PM. Reason: PS

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