Custom Cluad Butler Zenith
11-11-12, 06:35 AM
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Custom Cluad Butler Zenith
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I recently ripped apart my old 21 speed Claud Butler to give it a nice new spray job. Now that i'm coming to put it back together i'm thinking about modifying it a bit. I'd like to make it a basic 5 speed but i have noooo idea where to start. I'm a complete novice at this and also at forum posting, so i've probably dont this wrong, if you want to spam or torll me or tell me a i'm a dick go ahead but i'm just looking for some friendly advice.
Also if anyone has a better idea of what i could do to it then let me know.
Here should be a picture of the beast in question.
I recently ripped apart my old 21 speed Claud Butler to give it a nice new spray job. Now that i'm coming to put it back together i'm thinking about modifying it a bit. I'd like to make it a basic 5 speed but i have noooo idea where to start. I'm a complete novice at this and also at forum posting, so i've probably dont this wrong, if you want to spam or torll me or tell me a i'm a dick go ahead but i'm just looking for some friendly advice.
Also if anyone has a better idea of what i could do to it then let me know.
Here should be a picture of the beast in question.
11-11-12, 08:52 AM
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new wheel, new freewheel wheel, new chain, new shifters, etc....
Why do you want 5 speed? it's an obsolete gearing setup, if you want simple, your easiest option would to go single speed, but you would need to investigate what you can do with the current setup of the bike, a breakdown of the parts and sizes (rear wheel OLD, front mech diameter, BB shell etc) will help with any suggestion.
Why do you want 5 speed? it's an obsolete gearing setup, if you want simple, your easiest option would to go single speed, but you would need to investigate what you can do with the current setup of the bike, a breakdown of the parts and sizes (rear wheel OLD, front mech diameter, BB shell etc) will help with any suggestion.
11-11-12, 09:36 AM
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Going to 1X7 speeds would seem reasonably sensible; 1X5 doesn't compute.
11-11-12, 09:54 AM
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I agree a 1x7 makes more sense. All you really need to do is get some single speed chainring bolts, and when you reassemble the bike omit the inner and outer chainrings and front derailleur. Depending where you live you may want something slightly larger than the stock 36(?) you might try the 46 in the middle position too.
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11-11-12, 11:43 AM
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Internal Gear Hub .. then all is simpler
the current Sturmey Archer 5 speed has a wide range.. thumb or gripshifter
Shimano Alfine 11 is wider.. [just one shifter style]
the current Sturmey Archer 5 speed has a wide range.. thumb or gripshifter
Shimano Alfine 11 is wider.. [just one shifter style]
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11-12-12, 03:29 AM
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Awesome, cheers guys this is a lot of help. Honestly, I want a five speed just for nostalgic purposes, when i was younger that's all I rode, but you're right 1x7 will probably be a lot easier.
11-12-12, 10:47 AM
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Looks like it's for road use, so with a 46t, I'd say you could go a 13-25 or even a 13-23, if your terrain is flat enough. With the 46t, they'd be a nice tight set of ratios.
Some smaller, lighter tyres would provide a nice performance boost (and lower the gearing slightly). A lighter seat also makes the bike feel a lot livelier when you're off it, and they can be quite comfortable.
Also, again assuming it's for the road, the bars' taper permitting, you should consider trimming them to the width of your shoulders.
IMO V-brakes are much easier to set up and are more reliably powerful, but they require specific levers...
Some smaller, lighter tyres would provide a nice performance boost (and lower the gearing slightly). A lighter seat also makes the bike feel a lot livelier when you're off it, and they can be quite comfortable.
Also, again assuming it's for the road, the bars' taper permitting, you should consider trimming them to the width of your shoulders.
IMO V-brakes are much easier to set up and are more reliably powerful, but they require specific levers...
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