Campagnolo Veloce 10 speed shifter problems
Hi
I've searched the internet and so have read a few rebuilds and watched some videos, but would like to be absolutely sure I know what is going on with my Veloce shifter. The right 10 speed will shift fine when there is no cable connected, but once you hook it up to the derailleur, it starts skipping gears when you shift up using the trigger. Sometimes it will shift all the way to the bottom of the cassette, and then when you try to shift down using the paddle, it won't catch and will just shift down and up and down and up, and you have to do some fiddling to get it to catch again. I watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y5Sn_Jnkus and the shifters have the same internals. Which parts would be replaced to stop this happening, assuming the parts are even available? I pulled mine apart and didn't see anything obvious, so I don't know if it's just one of the springs not having enough tension to overcome the derailleur spring. Thanks! |
Usually the index springs need to be replaced.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-E...item5d329c7250 |
Yeah, the type of shifter I have doesn't use those. I just got an email from a bike shop saying that though you can get parts for other types of Campy ergo shifters, this particular type has parts for which replacements are unavailable.
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If they were made in 2007 or later that's correct. When were they made?
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Not sure but it looks like maybe 2008, from what I can glean from a .pdf I found.
So I've started looking on ChainReaction and Wiggle for some new ones. Trying to find out if the ones they sell are not the Escape mechanism, as that seems to be the problem. The ones they have say they are Ergopower Powershift, so I'll email them to clarify what that means as when I buy some I would like them to be repairable. |
Originally Posted by Jimbo1983
(Post 15154111)
Yeah, the type of shifter I have doesn't use those. I just got an email from a bike shop saying that though you can get parts for other types of Campy ergo shifters, this particular type has parts for which replacements are unavailable.
Originally Posted by Jimbo1983
(Post 15154226)
Not sure but it looks like maybe 2008, from what I can glean from a .pdf I found.
So I've started looking on ChainReaction and Wiggle for some new ones. Trying to find out if the ones they sell are not the Escape mechanism, as that seems to be the problem. The ones they have say they are Ergopower Powershift, so I'll email them to clarify what that means as when I buy some I would like them to be repairable. |
^^^Ooo thanks for that, gives me another option to look at!
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1983
(Post 15154292)
^^^Ooo thanks for that, gives me another option to look at!
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I am curious however as to which part actually wears, and if there is a bodge or mod I could make (just for fun) that could fix or prolong the life of it. Like, filing another slot for the spring to increase the tension on it, or something like that.
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Originally Posted by anixi
(Post 15153986)
Usually the index springs need to be replaced.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-E...item5d329c7250 |
Originally Posted by Jimbo1983
(Post 15154354)
I am curious however as to which part actually wears, and if there is a bodge or mod I could make (just for fun) that could fix or prolong the life of it. Like, filing another slot for the spring to increase the tension on it, or something like that.
I saw the guts of some Doubletaps at a bike show a couple of months back, and I've gotta say they compare very favourably to Ergos and STIs from an engineering perspective; such a beautifully simple mechanism. Doubletap looks like it may eventually succumb to wear, perhaps being less durable than 1st-gen STIs (which mostly only keep working long enough to wear out if they're overhauled to replace the crappy grease), but the next brifters I buy will be SRAM for sure. |
Originally Posted by Kimmo
(Post 15154447)
....but the next brifters I buy will be SRAM for sure.
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I'd like to see one of these apart sometime. I'd like to see why they charge over $60 (Amazon link) to repair vs. the old $20 carrier and springs. Is this yet another way that a company has done some "cost reducing" which ended up costing the customer a lot more? Sick...
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Originally Posted by anixi
(Post 15155777)
I'd like to see one of these apart sometime. I'd like to see why they charge over $60 (Amazon link) to repair vs. the old $20 carrier and springs. Is this yet another way that a company has done some "cost reducing" which ended up costing the customer a lot more? Sick...
To repair a current ultrashift or powershift (escape) lever, you have to buy a major assembly that includes everything but the brake lever, band clamp and brake hood. |
Originally Posted by DaveSSS
(Post 15156033)
The exploded views of all shifter models are available at www.campagnolo.com. The escape mechanism shifters are nothing like the first generation of Campy ergos, up to 2008. If would cost a few bucks to repair the shifter, but Campy has quit selling most of the small parts to make repairs. The new ultrashift mechanism has no g-springs or spring retainer to wear out and little maintenance is expected.
To repair a current ultrashift or powershift (escape) lever, you have to buy a major assembly that includes everything but the brake lever, band clamp and brake hood. |
Shimano shifters can't be repaired either, unless you've got donor parts from wreck-damaged shifters. If the shifter just needs cleaned and lubed, then you can do that with any brand.
The bottom line is if there's a broken internal part that needs replaced, you're out of luck. I disassembled the new ultrashift levers, back in '08. I've also converted 10 speed ultrashift levers to 11 speed, but I had a wreck-damaged shifter to supply the one part needed. http://forums.roadbikereview.com/cam...er-154068.html |
Originally Posted by DaveSSS
(Post 15156732)
Shimano shifters can't be repaired either, unless you've got donor parts from wreck-damaged shifters. If the shifter just needs cleaned and lubed, then you can do that with any brand.
The bottom line is if there's a broken internal part that needs replaced, you're out of luck. I disassembled the new ultrashift levers, back in '08. I've also converted 10 speed ultrashift levers to 11 speed, but I had a wreck-damaged shifter to supply the one part needed. http://forums.roadbikereview.com/cam...er-154068.html |
So I went ahead and ordered one of the replacement shifter bodies. Hopefully I'll get plenty of miles out of it, and then I can ride while keeping an eye out for some newer better or older rebuildable shifters.
Cheers! |
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