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Old 04-03-13, 08:32 PM   #1
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Components that will not rust?

Hi everyone,
I am a Massachusetts resident and have suffered through a long winter. I took my "nice" bike off the road a lot of the time for fear that road salt and sand would degrade its components. The local winter does not quite seem over so I can imagine taking the bike off the road yet again. I am wondering if any company out there manufactures a chain and/ or cassette that are made from stainless steel or some other non rusting material that I could use without fear during the winter? (I ride a Surly LHT).
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Old 04-03-13, 08:47 PM   #2
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You definitely can find rust proof chains at some bike shops, something like this but you will have to find the right chain for your drive-train http://www.ebay.com/itm/45North-Will...item20cf762bed

As far as cassette I can't seem to find any rust proof ones but if the bike is well lubed and the drive-train rinsed with plain water after every ride this should help stop the rust
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Just lube and clean regularly. Chains and cassettes just wear our from mileage and not from rust if you just use reasonable care.
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You definitely can find rust proof chains at some bike shops, something like this but you will have to find the right chain for your drive-train http://www.ebay.com/itm/45North-Will...item20cf762bed

As far as cassette I can't seem to find any rust proof ones but if the bike is well lubed and the drive-train rinsed with plain water after every ride this should help stop the rust
Hi Aidan,
Thanks for the reply. I will look into that chain. In terms of regular rinsing, I am trying to avoid that as I use my nice bike for commuting.
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You know they leave railroad tracks outside your round, and they don't seem overly concerned about rust.

The key isn't to use rustproof materials, but to understand that use will keep the critical areas manageably rust free. Use a decent chain lube, and accept that you'll get some cosmetic rust and you'll do fine. Salt may shorten chain life, but not nearly enough to justify spending more than twice as much for a stainless steel one.

Once the salt season is over, everything should get a good fresh water wash and rinse. If you're do for bearing service and overhauls, that's best delayed until salt season is over. My commuter gets a thorough lube twice a year, once before winter to prevent salt intrusion, once in April to make sure any that got in is flushed. The bike has greaseguard so this is a pretty fast ritual.
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Hi Aidan,
Thanks for the reply. I will look into that chain. In terms of regular rinsing, I am trying to avoid that as I use my nice bike for commuting.
Best,
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No problem, even just pouring a bottle of water over it will help get rid of the salt and lessen the chance of rusting but apart from that making sure its lubed well and it shouldn't rust badly. A bit of surface rust although unsightly shouldn't effect the gears badly.
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A bit of surface rust although unsightly shouldn't effect the gears badly.
FYI, effect is a noun; the verb you were after is affect.

Or to put em in a sentence, special effects affect box office takings.

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all companies that make chains offer a nickel plated version, it just costs more to buy..

you may not be lubricating yours sufficiently.

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I ride my LHT all year long in Buffalo. I don't rinse at all. Never had a problem with rust, although I keep it indoors overnight. Spray the inside with frame-save and just ride.
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I ride my LHT all year long in Buffalo. I don't rinse at all. Never had a problem with rust, although I keep it indoors overnight. Spray the inside with frame-save and just ride.
+1 - Indeed. Although I have used cheapo cassettes before now (Shimano HG-40s etc.) presumably with none of that fancy nickel-plating etc., I have never had a problem with rust in that area.

I have had tiny orange specks on my chains (cheap KMC one, just recently, for example) before now, but after a quick wipe/lube/wipe, it's completely gone - the action of meshing with the gear teeth while in use removes it anyway.

Also, you can get some light oil or similar and just put a tiny amount on a rag and rub it over exposed metal components like BB/brake bolt heads etc. - that tiny layer of oil is enough to prevent them from rusting for a good while.
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+1 my commuter is ridden year round with zero after ride care. Of course I do routine scheduled maintenance as described in the earlier post, but even on New York's salted roads, rust isn't an issue, except for some very minor cosmetic rust here and there ay the edges of the chains outer plates.

Even my 2 bikes in Cozumel which is the corrosion capitol of the world, (salt air with 99% humidity, and seawater puddles on roads) get minimal maintenance and don't suffer issues. The key is decent preventative lubrication, and keeping paint touched up. I also use heavy wax on bare metal parts like clamp bolts, which keeps rust down to a spot or two once in a while.

It's been 5 years and the only issue is the spoke holes in the aluminum rims, which I was too slow in protecting.
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Or to put em in a sentence, special effects affect box office takings.

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I would get annoyed but now I am now further grammatically knowledgeable. Thank you Kimmo you have affected me!
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Literacy are dangeros!






Just lube and ride.


I have an expensive bike that I keep away from salt (affects rims, spokes, metal frame etc...), but the normaly priced commuter bike stands up to winter after winter after winter. Just normal maintenance (lubrication, cable and housing change occasionaly, etc.).
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Or to put em in a sentence, special effects affect box office takings.

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Poor cleaning and lubrication can effect rust, though.
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Or to put em in a sentence, special effects affect box office takings.

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Effect can be a verb.

Oops. ThermionicScott beat me to it.

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Effect can be a verb.
Yes, but only in a limited specific sense. Likewise affect can be a noun, but only shrinks and cops ever use it that way.

That's the beauty of English. Not only are there more words than any other language, we also use them in all sorts of ways.

My cousin is a native French speaker who teaches English as a foreign language in Paris. She has no problem translating English to French, but often goes crazy going the other way.
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At least with affect as a noun the pronunciation changes.
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At least with affect as a noun the pronunciation changes.
how do you write pronunciation in text? is there an html-P?
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There's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...netic_Alphabet. But its a pain to use.

The "a" sounds like the "a" in apple.
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for your response. I will check into nickel chains. As for lubricating, my LBS says I lubricate to excess.
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There's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...netic_Alphabet. But its a pain to use.

The "a" sounds like the "a" in apple.
While you have the dictionary open, look up rhetorical question, and maybe also sarcasm, parody, pulling legs and irony.
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While you have the dictionary open, look up rhetorical question, and maybe also sarcasm, parody, pulling legs and irony.
You seem to be at least somewhat computer literate. There are a lot of online dictionaries that you could use instead of asking people on forums to look up words for you. This one: http://www.merriam-webster.com, perhaps? Good luck learning!
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You seem to be at least somewhat computer literate. There are a lot of online dictionaries that you could use instead of asking people on forums to look up words for you. This one: http://www.merriam-webster.com, perhaps? Good luck learning!
Mr.Charlie can you not recognize humor if there's no LOL, or emoticon immediately following?

For the record, I was pulling your leg, and I think you're the only one who didn't notice.
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