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    GUIDE: Repairing Shimano 600 (6400) STI Levers

    Another guide, now for the 600 STIs. These were in very bad cosmetic condition(on the brink of being unusable) and the shifters did not click at all. Obvious signs of the gummed up grease.

    600 levers are not symmetrical. The right side lever is different to the left side lever. So I will be going through both left and right sides in this guide.




    RIGHT SIDE
    Use a 2mm allen key to remove this grub screw. Theres a little threadlock so it may be tight.


    Get some sort of tool(4mm key in this case) to push out the pivot.


    Now you can remove the lever from the body. Use a knife or flat edged tool to peel off the 600 badge.


    Use a 8mm socket to unscrew the nameplate screw. Make sure youre holding onto both the name plate and the lever when unscrewing, otherise there is a possibility that the name plate will go flying off as its connected to a loaded spring.


    Carefully lift whilst twisting the name plate off. You will be greeted with this spring. This is different to the assembly of the new Sora(3300) and 105(5500) levers, but exactly the same as the RX100 and RSX. Id say its much more easy to dismantle and rebuild because the spring is here.


    Flip to the backside of the lever, and push over the smaller lever to reveal a Phillips screw. Unscrew this, and be careful of a small screw washer behind.
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    Now the large lever can be pulled off to reveal the innards. I believe this would be the lever that has the most gummed up grease. Its filthy!






    Proceed with cleaning up the old grease using whatever means you like(I like to use petrol). A quick soak allowed me to brush if all off. Once cleaned up, apply grease to the pawls.






    LEFT SIDEIt is not entirely the same as the right lever, but its still close enough to the right side to dismantle.
    2mm allen key


    Peel off the badge, and unscrew with the 8mm socket. Remove the name plate as above.


    Flip it over and push over the small lever to reveal a Phillips screw.
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    Lever comes right off to reveal the innards. Now this side was dry as! Sand and dirt managed to get inside.




    Clean up the grease with fuel, or degreaser.


    And out comes a clean lever. But theres an issue with this one. If you look carefully, one trim position has sheared off. It still holds the gear alright, but theres always the chance of it slipping.






    Both levers can go back together in the opposite way they came apart, so back trace, and you shouldnt have a problem. The badges need to be glued back on, unless you reckon the glue on it is still good enough.

    Finished Product! I could use the 600 lever bodies, as the pivoting area is cracking. The chrome plated parts were flaking and I dont wanna polish it up after what I went through with the name plates. The 600 levers and DA levers had chrome plated name plates and lever bodies. It looks good if it still is there. My pair had the chrome flaking and corroding away. I know there are chemical methods of removing chrome, but I just sanded down(took forever!), then polished up. The levers *** metal paint was is half dead condition, so I just sanded it down and then polished up.






    Interesting notes:
    - This has its own unique hoods, but the shape of the lever body will allow for the use of the same hoods as the RSX and RX100, which is also shared with the 105 SC levers(ST-1055).
    - The 600 lever is very similar to the other STIs of that time, and parts are intechangable. I am using the RSX lever bodies.

    Oh, and I will offer a service to rebuild STI levers. So far I have done the Sora(3300), 105(5500), RX100, RSX, and the 600 as above, but I am sure that I can get around to doing the others without too many problems. I will also gladly take in any broken shifters, or ones that do not work anymore. Please PM me if youre interested!

    OTHER GUIDES for this lever
    http://imgur.com/a/0tPBK

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-rebuild-guide
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    Very nice. I wouldn't be surprised if you get real busy real fast. Good luck
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    Awesome, Quang. Getting that chrome off wouldn't have been much fun... at least you only had to do the nameplates.

    Were the 600 bodies any lighter than the RSX ones?

    IMO you should repaint the levers in the metallic charcoal; it's a 600 signature!

    Also, those badges still look pretty crappy, huh. Tell you what you can do - the cloudy plastic bits should come off without too much trouble, then the badges will look new! Protect them with some framesaver patches. I just use blu-tack to hold them on, works fine if you get the amount right.

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    Try polishing the face plates with Colgate whitening toothpaste and a damp cloth. That made a big difference on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a77impala View Post
    Try polishing the face plates with Colgate whitening toothpaste and a damp cloth. That made a big difference on mine.
    +1

    a77impala beat me to it. Toothpaste is one of those lifehacks for cloudy plastics. It works well for cleaning up older headlights on a car, etc. I wouldn't be surprised to see it clear up those badges. Plus it would be an easy step, so even if it doesn't work, it's not like you lost much out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
    Awesome, Quang. Getting that chrome off wouldn't have been much fun... at least you only had to do the nameplates.

    Were the 600 bodies any lighter than the RSX ones?

    IMO you should repaint the levers in the metallic charcoal; it's a 600 signature!

    Also, those badges still look pretty crappy, huh. Tell you what you can do - the cloudy plastic bits should come off without too much trouble, then the badges will look new! Protect them with some framesaver patches. I just use blu-tack to hold them on, works fine if you get the amount right.
    Excellent ideas.

    Also as a long term solution you can use clear-drying puzzle glue. In 6 years when you rebuild the levers again you won't have to replace some poly sticker / framesaver. The puzzle glue (2-3 applications, letting dry fully in between) lasts forever and never clouds.

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    I doubt the toothpaste would make it look new, but I guess it's worth a shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBing View Post
    you won't have to replace some poly sticker / framesaver.
    You don't my way either. With the badge off, firmly apply the sticker, then use scissors to trim it to exactly the same size (you should know this trick). Married.

    Then once the badge is stuck on with blu-tack*, it comes off if you want but not if you don't.

    No reason to remove the clear off the badge.



    *In case folks outside Oz have never heard of the stuff, it's sticky goo for holding up posters and so forth.

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    Hey Quang!

    Just sent you an e-mail regarding the RXS shifter. I'm looking to re-assemble one after stupidly taking the entire thing apart, rather than trying to clean the inner parts while still partially assembled. I'm also looking to re-assemble a 600 shifter, but as I've actually replaced them with Sora on my LeMond Zurich, I'm willing to part with it - both left and right - but, of course, the left 600 is completely disassembled :-(

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    The best way to tackle such a mission is to get hold of another lever of the same type and partially disassemble it for a reference.

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    Great info the best thing to rember on older none working Shimano STI stuff is you can't really damage it in meaningfull way. If you succede and get stuff working and smooth great you get you set of STI's for no more than a hour or two of work, if you fail your only out some of your time.

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    Yep, they are almost indestructable. But someone has managed to shear off one of the trim positions on my lever. It does slip sometimes, but its still able to shift alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
    Great info the best thing to rember on older none working Shimano STI stuff is you can't really damage it in meaningfull way. If you succede and get stuff working and smooth great you get you set of STI's for no more than a hour or two of work, if you fail your only out some of your time.
    Thats a very comforting thing to know! I've ruined two or three SRAM twist shifters while just trying to change the cables. Arghh! Yet another reason I hate twist shifters!
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    Thanks for the guide, QuangVuong; I pulled apart two left 105SC levers on the weekend, while one has bigger issues and takes several shifts to engage properly, the second one is shifting like new!

    It's kinda addictive and now I'm looking at pulling apart my right lever even though it's working properly, just to give it a clean and lube.

    Here's a picture because I took one:


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    Hi QuangVuong, thanks for the guide. Couldnt find the manual at shimano.
    Just wondering if you or anyone here could lend a help at my thread here
    ST-6400 Problem. Help needed kind masters!

    Had to open a thread in fear of non related discussion.
    Thanks in advance.

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    This is great for future references if I need it. Now I know it is possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwmckee View Post
    This is great for future references if I need it. Now I know it is possible...
    No worries. Spread the word.

    For far too long has everyone been passing on the message that Shimano STI levers are not repairable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuangVuong View Post
    No worries. Spread the word.
    Or don't so people will continue to sell their non-working levers cheap!

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    QV, you, Sir, did an awesome and timely self-done project to demonstrate the disassembly. How generous and giving!

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