Chain rubs bigger sprocket -- Is the chain twisted?
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Chain rubs bigger sprocket -- Is the chain twisted?
Hello, everybody.
I suspect that I've twisted my chain: It's rubbing the next sprocket, and as a consequence, it slips sometimes. At first, I thought it'd be the limit screws in the rear or front derailleurs, but I've ruled them out. Also, the chain isn't stretched and has the right length.
Here's a video from the front of the sprocket cassette and the back of the front derailleur: https://tinyurl.com/p8bwstj . And here's a video from the back of the rear wheel: https://tinyurl.com/qa27trj
I replaced the chain and the sprocket cassette 3 months ago, and I'm sure that I didn't have this problem back then. I then replaced the rear derailleur a few weeks later, and then the front derailleur a month ago. I noticed the noise days after replacing the front derailleur, but it might've been there before, I'm not sure. I've had to split the chain twice since I fitted it, and I think this is what caused the chain (or some of its plates) to twist/bend. However, I've only been able to spot one stiff link, which I fixed. This is what makes me hesitant about my hypothesis that it might be the chain -- I fear that I may replace it, and then find that it wasn't actually the chain.
I've spent a good chunk of time on the web, tried many things, but still no luck. Do you people have any suggestions?
And also, how much of a problem do you think this is? I'll be starting a week-long tour in Portugal next week, so I'd rather mitigate risks unless this really isn't much of an issue.
Thanks in advance!
I suspect that I've twisted my chain: It's rubbing the next sprocket, and as a consequence, it slips sometimes. At first, I thought it'd be the limit screws in the rear or front derailleurs, but I've ruled them out. Also, the chain isn't stretched and has the right length.
Here's a video from the front of the sprocket cassette and the back of the front derailleur: https://tinyurl.com/p8bwstj . And here's a video from the back of the rear wheel: https://tinyurl.com/qa27trj
I replaced the chain and the sprocket cassette 3 months ago, and I'm sure that I didn't have this problem back then. I then replaced the rear derailleur a few weeks later, and then the front derailleur a month ago. I noticed the noise days after replacing the front derailleur, but it might've been there before, I'm not sure. I've had to split the chain twice since I fitted it, and I think this is what caused the chain (or some of its plates) to twist/bend. However, I've only been able to spot one stiff link, which I fixed. This is what makes me hesitant about my hypothesis that it might be the chain -- I fear that I may replace it, and then find that it wasn't actually the chain.
I've spent a good chunk of time on the web, tried many things, but still no luck. Do you people have any suggestions?
And also, how much of a problem do you think this is? I'll be starting a week-long tour in Portugal next week, so I'd rather mitigate risks unless this really isn't much of an issue.
Thanks in advance!
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your RD clearly looks like it isn't aligned with your small cog which is why it is hitting the next one. That is either a limit or cable tension issue. In the smallest cog there should be no tension in the cable at all. Is this the case?
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I could not get the videos to work, and even if I could have they looked a bit shaky. There's no substitute for being there, especially with drivetrain problms. If by "I replaced the chain..." you mean that you personally did the work there are multiple errors that could lead to the problem you are having, and there could be other problems of which you are not aware. So there's no way to tell online how much of "an issue" it is. I would strongly suggest you have a shop correct whatever deficiencies there are - it's better than being broken down in Portugal.
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Thanks, guys!
I checked the tension and the limit screws again, as per redlude97's suggestion, and it's now working properly. I then got a second opinion from a LBS and they thought it was fine.
I checked the tension and the limit screws again, as per redlude97's suggestion, and it's now working properly. I then got a second opinion from a LBS and they thought it was fine.
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The rub isn't happening between the derailleur and the cog, it's between the small chain ring and the cog.
Because the rub happens at regular intervals, I believe the chain is perfectly OK. It does look like the bike really wasn't designed to work with a six-speed freewheel, though, because the chain line between these two cogs is skewed. Or else the back end of the bike took a hit from the left and the frame is out of alignment.
If I had a bad case of OCD and didn't mind throwing money into a cheap bike, and the frame isn't bent, I'd try to replace the bottom bracket with one with a longer spindle. But my recommendation is to simply not use the small ring with the smallest freewheel cog. That chain angle causes problems on other bikes, too.
Because the rub happens at regular intervals, I believe the chain is perfectly OK. It does look like the bike really wasn't designed to work with a six-speed freewheel, though, because the chain line between these two cogs is skewed. Or else the back end of the bike took a hit from the left and the frame is out of alignment.
If I had a bad case of OCD and didn't mind throwing money into a cheap bike, and the frame isn't bent, I'd try to replace the bottom bracket with one with a longer spindle. But my recommendation is to simply not use the small ring with the smallest freewheel cog. That chain angle causes problems on other bikes, too.
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I should have read the whole thread. And I see how adjusting the derailleur keeps the chain centered over the cog. Thanks.
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