tire fit and FD clamp
#1
Not lost wanderer.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lititz, Pa
Posts: 3,323
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 885 Post(s)
Liked 987 Times
in
519 Posts
tire fit and FD clamp
I have a Fuji Stratos, a made for Japan bike. it has a Shimano 2300FD. The problem is I want to put a larger tire on the rear and the clamp is HUGE and it has short chain stays. I would like to put some 700cx35s on it and they would fit if it was not for a fat clamp for the FD. Is there a Front derailleur that has a thinner clamp or one that rides lower on the seat post that I could swap out to. I would have no problem going to a triple even.
__________________
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
#2
Galveston County Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221
Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1349 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times
in
621 Posts
Looking at your photo, it seems that you have no room for a larger tire on the rear.
What size is the rear tire in the pic?
What size is the rear tire in the pic?
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"
Fred "The Real Fred"
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Roswell, GA
Posts: 8,319
Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1438 Post(s)
Liked 1,092 Times
in
723 Posts
It looks to me like you would not have room for a larger tire if the FD was removed altogether. The tire looks equally close to the clamp and the seat tube.
#4
Banned
You might consider tearing the whole bike down and adding a Braze-on FD cleat , then repainting it .
New 29ers have those scant clearance issues too.
what you want might be a frame with Longer Chainstays..
Builders have used S bend Seat-tubes,m pressed in clearance Dents,
, and even, like Rigi, splitting up the seat tubes into 2 smaller diameter tubes ,
and having the tire edge pass between them..
Or Kestral just eliminating the seat tube entirely..
Or live with what you have.. I have a actual CX frame , and stick with 32 tires on it.
rebuild the rear wheel around a Hybrid hub Like SRAM Dual Drive,
a combo IGH and cassette
then the FD and 2 other chainrings can Go. (& still have a 'triple crank')
New 29ers have those scant clearance issues too.
what you want might be a frame with Longer Chainstays..
Builders have used S bend Seat-tubes,m pressed in clearance Dents,
, and even, like Rigi, splitting up the seat tubes into 2 smaller diameter tubes ,
and having the tire edge pass between them..
Or Kestral just eliminating the seat tube entirely..
Or live with what you have.. I have a actual CX frame , and stick with 32 tires on it.
rebuild the rear wheel around a Hybrid hub Like SRAM Dual Drive,
a combo IGH and cassette
then the FD and 2 other chainrings can Go. (& still have a 'triple crank')
Last edited by fietsbob; 10-27-13 at 12:18 PM.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: City of Brotherly Love
Posts: 1,562
Bikes: Raleigh Companion, Nashbar Touring, Novara DiVano, Trek FX 7.1, Giant Upland
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
There are top-swing deraileurs that mount lower but AFAIK they are only available for MTB, If your front shifter is friction and you're willing to replace your crankset you could make it work.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,671
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5767 Post(s)
Liked 2,541 Times
in
1,407 Posts
Based on the photo, there's not much difference between where the tire would hit the clamp or the frame. If you only need 1 or 2 millimeters, you can carefully file some material away from the back of the clamp.
Don't get carried away, but done right this might solve your problem without overly weakening the band.
Don't get carried away, but done right this might solve your problem without overly weakening the band.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#7
Senior Member
bwilli88, The 2-3 mm you maybe able to eek out isn't going to change the tire's footprint much at all.
Brad
Brad
#8
Not lost wanderer.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lititz, Pa
Posts: 3,323
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 885 Post(s)
Liked 987 Times
in
519 Posts
I have 28mm tires on it now and can go to a 38 without the FD, I just want to put something like a 700c x 32 small block 8 pro or similar cyclecross type tire to handle the nasty roads here in Cambodia.
__________________
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
#9
Not lost wanderer.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lititz, Pa
Posts: 3,323
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 885 Post(s)
Liked 987 Times
in
519 Posts
I took off the FD and it had a 1.5 mm shim around the whole seat tube. I cut the rear shim and fit a piece of it between the front half of the shim and the seat tube and filed off 1 mm of the rear of the FD clamp. It looks a bit of Cambodian engineering but it works. Here how it fits, front of FD clamp, full shim, part shim, down tube, rear of FD clamp that have had 1 mm filed off the back side. This gave me enough space to fit a 700x35 that just clears the rear of the FD clamp.
It looks like it is rubbing but it does not.
Now to find some interrupter brake levers to fit the handle bars.
It looks like it is rubbing but it does not.
Now to find some interrupter brake levers to fit the handle bars.
__________________
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Last edited by bwilli88; 10-28-13 at 09:21 PM.
#10
Senior Member
I have a Fuji Stratos, a made for Japan bike. it has a Shimano 2300FD. The problem is I want to put a larger tire on the rear and the clamp is HUGE and it has short chain stays. I would like to put some 700cx35s on it and they would fit if it was not for a fat clamp for the FD. Is there a Front derailleur that has a thinner clamp or one that rides lower on the seat post that I could swap out to. I would have no problem going to a triple even.
/K
#11
Not lost wanderer.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lititz, Pa
Posts: 3,323
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 885 Post(s)
Liked 987 Times
in
519 Posts
I have been having a great time building what I want out of these.
__________________
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Last edited by bwilli88; 10-28-13 at 09:25 PM.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,671
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5767 Post(s)
Liked 2,541 Times
in
1,407 Posts
BTW- I was wondering where it's safe to leave 2 nice bikes, and related stuff outside leaning on cyclone fence, so I looked up your town. They didn't have street views so I couldn't find your house, but if you commute to work by bike, you need to add photos to the "photo's of your ride" thread on the commuter forum.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#13
Not lost wanderer.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lititz, Pa
Posts: 3,323
Bikes: In USA; 73 Raleigh Super Course dingle speed, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 72 Geoffry Butler, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 74 Gugie Grandier Sportier
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 885 Post(s)
Liked 987 Times
in
519 Posts
I live in Kampong Cham Cambodia and that is part of a cage shed in my back yard.
__________________
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
Cambodia bikes, Bridgestone SRAM 2 speed, 2012 Fuji Stratos...
#14
Senior Member
I took off the FD and it had a 1.5 mm shim around the whole seat tube. I cut the rear shim and fit a piece of it between the front half of the shim and the seat tube and filed off 1 mm of the rear of the FD clamp. It looks a bit of Cambodian engineering but it works. Here how it fits, front of FD clamp, full shim, part shim, down tube, rear of FD clamp that have had 1 mm filed off the back side. This gave me enough space to fit a 700x35 that just clears the rear of the FD clamp.
It looks like it is rubbing but it does not.
Now to find some interrupter brake levers to fit the handle bars.
It looks like it is rubbing but it does not.
Now to find some interrupter brake levers to fit the handle bars.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
No room for fenders, though.
Maybe a conversion to 26" rims? Using long reach brakes?
Maybe a conversion to 26" rims? Using long reach brakes?
#16
Zip tie Karen
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
Posts: 7,004
Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1465 Post(s)
Liked 1,542 Times
in
806 Posts
I like the way your bike looks.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,671
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5767 Post(s)
Liked 2,541 Times
in
1,407 Posts
It seems like an interesting place. Do you use the bamboo bridge?
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#18
Banned
I took off the FD and it had a 1.5 mm shim around the whole seat tube.
You can get a band to braze on adapter and a Braze on FD ..
the adapter band will be similar to having the band fitted FD in the clearance it has behind it.
you do realize a stone can jam in the gap and lock up your rear wheel in an instant
with such a limited clearance , don't you?
Last edited by fietsbob; 10-29-13 at 10:11 AM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mikemowbz
Classic & Vintage
24
03-03-15 07:48 PM
bklyn74
Bicycle Mechanics
20
10-19-12 06:34 PM